Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction
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Would we ever loan to another PL team? (I was about to say one of the lower PL teams, but of course that would include us!) That way he can experience the league, get experience of it, and we can assess his capability properly. On the other hand if it was going to happen, Brighton might have been a good place.
Who was the last player we loaned to a PL team?
Reguilon to Brentford/Man Utd probably
I think we do want to loan him again but Vuskovic prefers a permanent move.
I don’t blame him really either, he’ll have seen the two CB signings and know that even another good season away wouldn’t guarantee a return to our XI the following year. Probably also knows Brighton’s the perfect club for someone of his age, 2 good years there and he’s getting a £100m move to one Europe’s elite… or Chelsea.
Romano claims that RDZ sees Kinsky as his number one and is happy to buy a backup instead of a new first choice keeper.
Could be bollocks.
Could be true.
Interesting either way.
Could be bollocks.
Could be true.
Interesting either way.
Back to the Fernandes and Tonali stuff, lot of rival fans on social media keep saying “where are Spurs getting this money”/ “how do Spurs have so much money”…
We predominantly scrimped for 20+ years ffs, this is just long overdue. Plus, iirc we are massively under FFP, can’t remember exactly by how much, pretty sure last summer it was circa £250m. Doesn’t necessarily mean we have exactly that much money to throw, but people really need to realise we can *spend*.
We predominantly scrimped for 20+ years ffs, this is just long overdue. Plus, iirc we are massively under FFP, can’t remember exactly by how much, pretty sure last summer it was circa £250m. Doesn’t necessarily mean we have exactly that much money to throw, but people really need to realise we can *spend*.
Bonkers decision if true.
That said, the strengthening we’ve done in defence means that keeper is less of a priority to upgrade at the moment, LW, CM and ST are imperative.
TBH I’d be happy with Kinsky as number one as long as Vic is replaced by an experienced back up ( maybe Darlow ).
Thought Kinsky was excellent last part of the season and showed incredible mental strength after the Madrid debacle.
Maybe address the GK situation in Jan if needed but for now I’d like him to have a shot.
He’s 19 and under contract for another 4 years.
The club should tell him he’s getting loaned out again and not being sold.
Arsenal loaned out Saliba 3 times before he came into their starting line up because they deemed him not ready.
With no Europe and only one game a week, I can see why De Zerbi is willing to give him a chance but personally I’d like to see Spurs sign someone better because Kinsky makes too many mistakes.
Contract length is and has always been largely irrelevant with players though.
When a player wants out more often than not they get it. Vuskovic can easily reject any loan proposal, it may result in him being stuck here and sitting on the bench but then that’s lose-lose for everyone as his value depletes for us to sell and the player himself wastes a year.
Arsenal’s CBs were largely **** when loaning out Saliba too, we’ve just signed two to go straight into our XI and both, especially van Hecke, have multiple years ahead of them at the top still. Even another strong season on loan for Vuskovic doesn’t guarantee a spot in the XI back here, especially if van Hecke and Senesi do well.
Problem is Ledley, giving punts and shots as well as overspending on mediocrity is largely why we’ve found ourselves in such a mess.
Odobert, Tel, Gray, Simons, Gallagher, Richarlison, Solanke… all these fall into one or both of those categories. And despite a good few games at the end of the season, Kinsky’s been even worse than Vicario for us. Matt Doherty had a good 7 or 8 games at the end of his second season for us, everyone said we then shouldn’t sell him and then six months later in January he had his contract terminated.
I think the club and us fans need to act with stronger expectations. Admittedly there’s more immediate pressing needs right now than a new keeper due to the defensive reinforcements but I think it’s quite dangerous to be of the mindset of “giving a shot” after the two seasons we’ve just had.
Kinsky and Darlow as our keeper options would be borderline disastrous in my opinion too.
If he’s as good as many say he is then another loan move (ideally to a PL side) will show the club and fans how good he is. Then next summer the club will have no choice but to make him first choice.
It wouldn’t be ideal for Spurs if he’s just rotting in the reserves but they would still be able to command a decent fee next summer if they decided to sell him.
Revenue and FFP are irrelevant.
We can't spend more than circa £125m net in any financial year or we forfeit the terms of the stadium loans and get hit with interest rate hikes.
The current spending will be offset by player sales later in the window, there is no question about that.
I think the only other way around it is through direct capital injections by ENIC but I'm not sure if that is allowed as a covenant side-step. @PowerSpurs might know.
Not as much as they could get this summer though if he does end up rotting. I reckon we can probably get around £50m and possibly even a sell on clause this summer, Brighton’s just being cheeky and testing the waters with the £30m and £35m bids.
If De Zerbi or those at the club seriously believed in Vuskovic, I think we’d have only signed one of Senesi or van Hecke this summer. Signing both, with van de Ven and Danso already here (this is also assuming Romero leaves) gives me the impression we’re not really viewing Vuskovic as a genuine possibility to come into our side any time soon. Even if we sell Danso in January or next summer, it’s still hard envisaging Vuskovic getting proper game time with us inside the next 1-3 years. Realistically he’d need us to sell Romero, Danso and van de Ven inside the next 12 months in order to feel like he’s part of our plans, I think that’s pretty doubtful.
I wouldn’t lose too much sleep if it happened but it sounds like De Zerbi really likes van de Ven and the club wants him to commit to a new deal.
Yeah I think with him it’s more a case of him wanting to take that next step. He’s been linked with Liverpool and Barcelona, realistically he’s not gonna sign a new deal if those sort of clubs start bidding.
Possibly. I’d take £50m for him tbh. Good defender but not irreplaceable.
Maybe van Hecke and Senesi were both signed for these reasons too. I think I’d still like to see 3ATB though, if anything it’d help Vuskovic out more too should he stay. Van Hecke to his right, Senesi to his left as the two ball playing CBs and him centrally with the aim of cleaning up and clearing crosses.
It's a pretty well acknowledged tale that there's going to be a £200m cash injection from ENIC...and that we are treading a new path since Daniel was sacked.
The main (only?) impediment to spending more on transfers and wages was always Daniel. Once you've decided to do it, the rest is just admin and accountancy. He hid behind that...and it rightly cost him his job.
The Lewis family don't get told what to do by bankers...they get asked what they'd like to do.