Off Topic And Now for Something Completely Different
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Come on.
You know not to believe what is said on the internet…and definitely not on that cursed part of it.
The person never said $6Bn would end world hunger. They said it could lift 42m people out of hunger who would otherwise die…CNN misquoted them in the headline.
The UN did in fact publish a detailed plan to do exactly that, and posted it to him on Twatter. (Although tbf not on that thread which was a mistake IMHO)
Musk ignored it anyway though.
He did donate a similar amount of shares in Tesla to his own charity mind you.
I wouldn’t believe me either by the way…
There is some debate on the accuracy of your version too, and the UN are hardly a squeaky clean organisation from so many angles.
He doesn't have a garage full of cash, he has business assets that generate a lot of income for a lot of people, and he pays more tax than any other person on the planet. He's just made around a hundred of his workers millionaires.
I'm not even a fan of his, but some of the nonsense posted about his wealth is simply ridiculous.
In many respects, if he didn't have it, not only would that wealth not exist, many, many people would be in poverty.
It's more productive to look at why those people are in poverty, despite in may of those regions, billions of pounds have been pumped in.
We've been funding world starvation (predominantly African)since the pope was an alter boy and it's been proven time after time that it ends up in the hands of rebels who then buy arms,I don't give foreign aid any more as I prefer to fund hospices,including Dove House.
I'm not sure why Musk is obliged to end World hunger,irrespective of his Wealth.
I’m not a fan of the UN, but the thread you posted was obvious bollocks.
I know he doesn’t have $1Tn in his garage (I wonder how big your garage would need to be though?) And I did point out he made a similar donation to some charity.
The main facts I quoted were right though.
No one said it would end world hunger and someone did send him a detailed plan for what it could do that he ignored.
I’m afraid I don’t buy that many people would be in poverty if he didn’t have that wealth though.
It’s the inequality that’s the issue.
If Tesla didn’t exist people would just buy cars from other manufacturers.
Similarly if SpaceX didn’t exist then other companies would fill the need. If there wasn’t a need then fine.
Also neither would survive without huge tax breaks and US Govt contracts which have effectively moved money from US taxpayers to his garage (you know what I mean!)
If someone is ‘earning’ that much money the system is ****ed and their workers should be getting paid more so that one person can still be rich but not as filthy rich as that (better to make a thousand people $100k better off that a hundred $1m better off)
Put the world's richest man in charge of cutting American foreign aid and it could possibly lead to a million deaths a year that could otherwise have been avoided.
Mostly children.
Not saying it happened, so no need for the Musky lovers to hit full-on spluttering mode.
Interesting though that a trillionire would get himself involved in overseas aid cuts though.
Possibly there's nothing to see, mind.
As I said, there is a lot of debate on the accuracy of the version you posted.
Your version of how things would be if he packed up are even more debatable.
Irrespective of that, I can't see why Musk should solve the worlds problems with money he's earned without taking anything from us, when that's what politicians and other organisations that take money from us are supposedly set up to do.
I guess he could be like Bill Gates and others, that portray themselves as philanthropists, while making a fortune from every 'charitable' scheme they run, irrespective of any harm caused.
I wasn’t saying he was obliged to do that (and I agree on the issues around funding getting ‘redirected’)
I was merely saying that the thread that Dutch posted was very misleading.
No one said his $6Bn could end world hunger, but when challenged to publish a detailed plan for how to use $6Bn to do what they had said it could do? they did…and he ignored it.
That’s all
The facts I posted about the claim and the response are easily checked.
I accept there would be lots of debate on my other points though. I’m not an economist.
I just think that there should be a fairer way that didn’t lead to wealth inequality continuing to increase as fast as it is.
I don’t actually think he is obliged to do anything with the money he has amassed. I never said I did (I don’t think?)
I just think the system should be changed to stop it happening in the future. That is the part politicians should be doing (but I realise they’re not)
I simply posted his words to the point at the time.
If others jumped in later, that would be a separate issue.
Just shy of £600 billion has been sent to Africa in the last 50 years yet Africans are poorer now than they were 25 years ago?
The first priority when it all started should have been birth control education as most of their women were giving birth at a rate of 6+ children(I think that's eased off now but still sits somewhere between 4-5) and much would depend on what age they started having children at.
Another huge problem in Africa now is the HIV virus which isn't being dealt with due to lack of hospital/medical centre facilities and without touching on anything of a political nature,that is now becoming a U.K and European issue because many are making their way North.
Having come across a few WFP (world food program) projects I would say no matter how much money you give them to end world hunger most of that money would be spaffed on big salaries, nice hotels , restaurant food, nice cars and g+ts.
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Here you go
Even CNN said that he said, on 26/10/21 that
“$6 billion to help 42 million people that are literally going to die if we don’t reach them. It’s not complicated,”
The headline on the thread you posted didn’t say that. Either someone doctored it or CNN misquoted him.
Musk responded by asking for a detailed plan for something they hadn’t said was possible (‘solve world hunger’…as opposed to ‘help 42 million people’ that were going to die)
They did send him a detailed plan for how it would be used to help 42 million people (there is debate about how good the plan was, but I never passed option on it)
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He ignored it.What that I said about that was debatable?
I don’t know about any of that that but wasn’t commenting on it anyway
Are Africans really poorer now than 25 years ago?
So you agree, he was genuine with his call to offer billions to help others, and you have mentioned some of his other Charitable work. His companies have helped millions have a better life in many ways, and in many parts of the world and that wouldn't have happened yet if he hadn't, which makes your bus stop meme seem rather hollow.
I never said his response wasn’t genuine, I merely pointed out he wasn’t challenging something that anyone had ever actually said.
He notably never acknowledged that though which if it was me or you I suspect we would have done, which is why no one puts our faces on bus stops saying we are ****s. (I assume it’s not even real btw. I just found it amusing although I accept my amusement was heavily shaped by me thinking he is a ****)
Yes I mentioned his charity stuff in my initial post, because I was being fair to him.