Spare Parts (F1 odds and ends)

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Vegas F1 Grand Prix to stay until at least 2037 .

What REALLY hacks me off is that races like Spa have to alternate and other circuits have to modernise pits paddock etc .

Yet because F1 were desperate for Vegas to be a success that ( from the bbc ) -

F1 was so determined for the race to become a success that it invested $500m in buying a plot of land in the centre of Las Vegas on which it constructed a new pit building and paddock.
 
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Bit of shock here as Red Bull are declared to have the best Engine, so they can't develop it. Mercedes are far enough back in the test to be allowed an upgrade this season.

Ferrari get two upgrades
 
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Bit of shock here as Red Bull are declared to have the best Engine, so they can't develop it. Mercedes are far enough back in the test to be allowed an upgrade this season.

Ferrari get two upgrades
I bet that mad Toto's day and really gave Max a kick while he's down!
 
Isack is under investigation as Red Bull worked in the car during the redflag, when questioned they stopped and reverted the car back to original spec but it's been referred to the stewards!
Could mean Oscar gets 3rd and Alonso gets 10th!
Alpine also protesting the pit lane speeding penalties.
 
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Isack is under investigation as Red Bull worked in the car during the redflag, when questioned they stopped and reverted the car back to original spec but it's been referred to the stewards!
Could mean Oscar gets 3rd and Alonso gets 10th!
Alpine also protesting the pit lane speeding penalties.

Not Hadjars fault , but cannot see him getting away with no penalty .

The team broke the rules , the fact they got caught and put it back as it was is irrelevant imho .
 
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Isack is under investigation as Red Bull worked in the car during the redflag, when questioned they stopped and reverted the car back to original spec but it's been referred to the stewards!
Could mean Oscar gets 3rd and Alonso gets 10th!
Alpine also protesting the pit lane speeding penalties.
They were swapping the spark plugs apparently.
 
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Bit of shock here as Red Bull are declared to have the best Engine, so they can't develop it. Mercedes are far enough back in the test to be allowed an upgrade this season.

Ferrari get two upgrades

On the one hand, massive congratulations to RedBull Powertrains, it’s an incredible feat for their first engine, up against a number of experienced competitors. On the other hand, sometimes F1 really does shoot itself in the foot handing an advantage to a team with an already dominant car.
 
On the one hand, massive congratulations to RedBull Powertrains, it’s an incredible feat for their first engine, up against a number of experienced competitors. On the other hand, sometimes F1 really does shoot itself in the foot handing an advantage to a team with an already dominant car.
I agree re Red Bull, they have created an amazing feat.
From what I can gather FIA haven't actually released the public statement on ADUO! From what I have read it's purely about the ICE part of the PU but any development money and dyno time can be spent on any part of the PU! The FIA have data that we don't have access to, so I'm hoping they will explain how they have come to their conclusions but it seems like they are purposely not going to go into the details of the criteria so no one 'games' the system. Talk about not being transparent!!!

Hopefully in todays statement they will explain how the upgrades will work i.e. will they be allowed to apply the update to all PU in their pool, used or fresh, just the fresh PU - I'm assuming teams have fresh PUs.

I have a feeling this is going to be a mushroom situation!
 
On the one hand, massive congratulations to RedBull Powertrains, it’s an incredible feat for their first engine, up against a number of experienced competitors. On the other hand, sometimes F1 really does shoot itself in the foot handing an advantage to a team with an already dominant car.
Honda & Ford have plenty of experience building racing engines.
 
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FAO

Sgt .




And the reason is because tomorrow Alex takes the record for most race starts for Williams from Nigel Mansell .

I’m still having a crap season .
 
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Unsurprisingly the first appeal against Gasly being reinstated to 3rd at Monaco has been launched.
Waiting for all the others now.

Mercedes and McLaren currently .

The only team that protested in time were Alpine .

Now others are seeing it went in their favour , they want a say .

Too late sod off imho .
 
Hopefully they’re not successful. If the argument is, “it’s not fair if you can’t undo it for everyone” then that rather ignores the fact that time penalties are anyhow an inherently unfair construct and the fact that if you can make something right you should, even if you can’t do it for everyone.
 
There is a lot wrong this season. Why allow some to upgrade and not others? Too much outside manipulation. Fundamentally wrong even if the team you most support benefits.
Setting the wrong speed trap is a flaw of the organisers, hits everybody. So the FIA are both incompetent and manipulative but I suppose we knew that anyway.
 
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There is a lot wrong this season. Why allow some to upgrade and not others? Too much outside manipulation. Fundamentally wrong even if the team you most support benefits.
Setting the wrong speed trap is a flaw of the organisers, hits everybody. So the FIA are both incompetent and manipulative but I suppose we knew that anyway.
I get that after Honda and the tokens system last time they had to try and do better this time. I think that hiding the evaluation methods has made it much less transparent as to why certain PU manufacturers have been given allowances to improve. I understand why FIA didn't tell anyone the criteria as some would have 'played' the rules but keeping the rules secret has just confused things.

Also what I don't understand is the whole catchup improvements allowances are based only on ICE performance (presumably dyno data from the teams) but they are allowed to develop any part of the PU - including batteries, control electronics, mguk!
So in theory make a slightly down on power ICE unit or just map it badly and you get more development on the peripherals and next time still have an ICE that's below par so get more development money and dyno time?
 
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