Crime - part deux.

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Fine post Bobby, measured and well reasoned.

Few thoughts of mine - outbreaks of rage towards Sikhs is over the top and unwarranted - if the murderer was a white kid whose brother, father and mother had done exactly the same, they would be facing exactly the same consequences - their ethnicity, culture and religion are irrelevant in that regard.

The specifics of this incudent do however raise serious questions over symolic / traditional religion based rights to carry bladed weapons (however small) in public - but the weapon that caused the death appears to be quite different to the common / traditional 'kirpan' ... and I get the impression that this scrote would likely have been carrying a blade irrespective of being Sikh.
You do know he wasn’t stabbed with the kirpan yeh

Its was an 8” illegal blade he killed him with
 
Nothing really. Your grasp of punctuation offends me more than the content. You know I agree really.
Exactly bro

Jokingly or not you went for the race card to shut down the convo (in jest)
And that’s one of the major problems that’s lead to natives being in place where they’ve had enough of it.

It’s also why thousands of white girls got raped and passed around for years with the rape gangs

The government have created this problem and leftards like pinks and his gang of lesbian pro Palestine goons and the media have lapped it up for years and now its hit breaking point

This will only get worse the more the natives are ignored and the more the non natives are protected by leftard ****ers in the media and politics
 
Just reading a lot about this in reddit but i will summarise my thoughts after reading the back and forth:

1. George Floyd died because the policeman actually killed him by putting his knee on him for however many minutes vs Harry who admittedly was dragged and handcuffed but was ultimately killed by the sikh kid stabbing him

2. The police in george floyds case was going to get away with it (as standard for u.s. police) whereas harrys killer is now behind bars and in jail. People are rightly angry with the rest of the sikhs kids family and now they are being prosecuted. Same with the police officers, so what is the aim of the protests?

3. Kier did take a knee for BLM. He also condemned BLM violence so no change in stance (well someone said it i tried searching for it, not sure how accurate this website is)


"Pressed on whether he backed those officers in his new LBC phone-in show, Sir Keir said: “I think a number of officers want to.

“Obviously, the violence against them is completely unacceptable as Commissioner Cressida Dick has said.”

He added: “Nobody, but nobody, thinks there's anything good about that violence."


4. My thoughts are its okay for people to be angry and protest. Leave the violence at home as usual. Thanks.
Post Mortem on George Floyd I believe confirmed he died from a drug overdose caused by his swallowing all the drugs in his possession when approached by the Police, the Officer in question appeared to be posing for jokes rather than actually attempting to restrain or kill him, but he should have paid more attention than he did to the prisoners medical condition

The Police arresting Henry reacted in the way they did partly because they believed an ethnic minority over a white man and also because the Police have been brainwashed/coerced into the FALSE belief that ALL white people are RACIST but no ethnic minority is capable of being racist and they refused to belief that a young white man covered in blood was not a stab victim until it was too late, he would have died anyway from his wounds (THAT IS HOW BADLY HE WAS INJURED) and they denied him the attention and compassion that any human should give to anyone or anything that was dieing in that manner
 
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Rather selective take Dugster! - the official County coroners report found that some drugs in Floyd's system might have been contributing factors, but were not the direct cause of death, which was asphyxiation ...

The family commissioned an independent autopsy that more or less concluded that the sole cause of death was 'mechanical asphyxiation' I.e. that the knee on his neck meant that he was starved of sufficient oxygen to the brain and lungs.

A further report, later commissioned by the Trump administration, concluded that, from a prone position, George Floyd was still able to force his own neck into the officers knee for a sufficiently prolonged period to enable him to commit suicide.

Who to believe eh? <whistle>
 
Fine post Bobby, measured and well reasoned.

Few thoughts of mine - outbreaks of rage towards Sikhs is over the top and unwarranted - if the murderer was a white kid whose brother, father and mother had done exactly the same, they would be facing exactly the same consequences - their ethnicity, culture and religion are irrelevant in that regard.

The specifics of this incudent do however raise serious questions over symolic / traditional religion based rights to carry bladed weapons (however small) in public - but the weapon that caused the death appears to be quite different to the common / traditional 'kirpan' ... and I get the impression that this scrote would likely have been carrying a blade irrespective of being Sikh.
Just another kid stabbed, nothing to see here move along.
 
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Rather selective take Dugster! - the official County coroners report found that some drugs in Floyd's system might have been contributing factors, but were not the direct cause of death, which was asphyxiation ...

The family commissioned an independent autopsy that more or less concluded that the sole cause of death was 'mechanical asphyxiation' I.e. that the knee on his neck meant that he was starved of sufficient oxygen to the brain and lungs.

A further report, later commissioned by the Trump administration, concluded that, from a prone position, George Floyd was still able to force his own neck into the officers knee for a sufficiently prolonged period to enable him to commit suicide.

Who to believe eh? <whistle>
Not as selective as your take, why not check his criminal record and then ask yourself, if you even have the moral courage to do so, how you would have felt if it was your pregnant wife who he pushed a loaded gun into her stomach and told her he would shoot the baby unless she handed over all the money and valuables in the house, there are unfortunately some people on this planet that do not deserve our human compassion, he was one of them
 
Not as selective as your take, why not check his criminal record and then ask yourself, if you even have the moral courage to do so, how you would have felt if it was your pregnant wife who he pushed a loaded gun into her stomach and told her he would shoot the baby unless she handed over all the money and valuables in the house, there are unfortunately some people on this planet that do not deserve our human compassion, he was one of them
Oh and let's not forget, the BLM organiser in this country had her brains blown out because someone decided to take a gun to party. Also I've not forgotten all the looting that went on in America after George Floyd. And how protestors tried to get down Downing St and it was a battle on our streets to prevent them.

I don't support yesterdays riots, but the white guy in this country is taking too much **** from those in the Labour government, who couldn't bend their knee quick enough for those from the good ole USofA - it's clear coppers in this country have been indoctrinated to think one way, you and me racist guy, just because we are white.

And that's the simple plain truth, and if they don't change this tone it's going to end very badly for this current government.

I will not forget what the likes of Mahmood and Starmer say. The guy was dying on the street, it don't matter if he would of not survived anyway, it matters that they did not attempt to save him, and took the word of a murderer and his absolute scummy family, than that of a young white guy, this is the levels we've reached.
 
Post Mortem on George Floyd I believe confirmed he died from a drug overdose caused by his swallowing all the drugs in his possession when approached by the Police, the Officer in question appeared to be posing for jokes rather than actually attempting to restrain or kill him, but he should have paid more attention than he did to the prisoners medical condition

The Police arresting Henry reacted in the way they did partly because they believed an ethnic minority over a white man and also because the Police have been brainwashed/coerced into the FALSE belief that ALL white people are RACIST but no ethnic minority is capable of being racist and they refused to belief that a young white man covered in blood was not a stab victim until it was too late, he would have died anyway from his wounds (THAT IS HOW BADLY HE WAS INJURED) and they denied him the attention and compassion that any human should give to anyone or anything that was dieing in that manner

I think i'm going to have to agree to disagree on the matter of how George Floyd died having seen the video myself of the arrest at the time. Now did he deserve to die, one for the moral people to decide but the cop who killed him (imo) didn't know the guys history so if he's happy to do what he did then he deserved to go down.

Anyway, we'll have to see what the policy changes are now that this is all coming to a head. The worse thing about all this is that this all happened last year and it's only now that the brother, mother and father are being charged when they should have been ****ed over from the beginning.
 
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The burden of proof for racism ?
Zero, Henry was cuffed and arrested immediately.
Burden of proof for murder ?
Saying you can't breathe ten times, Henry never got to that one!

Anyone attempting to fudge this needs to **** off and give their heads the biggest of shakes!
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Not as selective as your take, why not check his criminal record and then ask yourself, if you even have the moral courage to do so, how you would have felt if it was your pregnant wife who he pushed a loaded gun into her stomach and told her he would shoot the baby unless she handed over all the money and valuables in the house, there are unfortunately some people on this planet that do not deserve our human compassion, he was one of them

My 'selectiveness' was paraphrasing the actual autopsy reports themselves ... so really, not at all...

...minus some attempted humour involving a fictitious Trump one ...which was entirely my invention ...

I gave no opinion on George Floyd's character ... or lack of it...
 
The burden of proof for racism ?
Zero, Henry was cuffed and arrested immediately.
Burden of proof for murder ?
Saying you can't breathe ten times, Henry never got to that one!

Anyone attempting to fudge this needs to **** off and give their heads the biggest of shakes!
Cops always use to have an understanding of their community, so even if you was a villian they still approached you like an old friend of crimes past, because it made their job easier to do so. There was none of this sticking the cuffs on first or drawing a tasar, that didn't exist in them days.

As soon as the cops arrived, they were told they were trying to sit the guy up, so why would the cops even perceive him to be a threat, there was no need for the cuffs whatsoever, he was on the ground incapacitated and even a ****ing blind man could of told them that.

I remember from my younger day, being taken in a cop car, from there to the cells, and I would have been perceived a risk, but no cuffs in sight, they seem to of lost the ability to communicate with the public these days. Talk to me bro, what's the problem, how many times do you need to be told I can't breath and I've been stabbed.

Even if the coppers thought he was 'faking' it, the people around him were already telling the cops they were trying to get him up. But the Sikh has said he grabbed my turban off, oh right where's the ****ing cuffs, let's take this white guy in.

George Floyd didn't deserve to die, it was disgusting, all because of a little sardistic cop on an ego trip.

I think this was slightly different, BUT only in the fact they've got ****ing midgets as back up these days with no guns. Looking at the cop who put the cuffs on, his arms only seemed of slim build, he was scared and trying to take control of the situation, but failed big time and it cost a life (subjective).

It cost a life, due to training, indoctrination and the inability to fill police officer roles with men who have the neccesary build to deal with situations calmly. A persons presence should be enough to calm a situation, sadly a 5ft copper don't tick that appropriate box unless you are dealing with young children.
 
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I should make clear, I don't agree with the violent protesters, you will achieve far more by being peaceful. I don't agree with any attacks whether verbal or physical on Sikhs, they are not the problem. The problem was one individual and his family and poor managment of the crime scene by the cops and slow medical attention for the now deceased.

Do I think white people are being poorly perceived or treated, in this instance yes - and I feel some of this has come from our politicians of all parties. Stop calling everything right wing, because you don't like argument or alternative to your own narratives.

You will make people right wing, if you continue on this path and that will benefit no one. Politicans need to concern themselves with knife crime, first and foremost and I wil continue to say this until I feel it's been adequately dealt with, and at the moment we are a million miles away from doing that.