Crime - part deux.

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If I was the Home Sec, I'd be pumping all my political power into making sure that not just the stabber was banged up, but the mum and brother were also for manslaughter.

And people wonder why Reform UK are surging across the entire country btw
 
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I'm going to have a rant, buckle up bro...

New charges, shouldn't these charges have already been rolling, the CPS would have seen the bodycam long before any member of the public or the media, it didn't take me more than a few minutes to work out that the family were accomplicies to murder.

In real life I've actually stood by Sikhs who have experienced racism in life, I have called it out, very loudly as well. Confronted it head on.

I don't even care if they have a ceremonial dagger, although it goes against my opinions on knives being carried.

However, sadly racism works both ways, and this family gathered to make the victim out to be the perpetrator, dare I say this demonstrates their own hatred of a human being to make up such lies, treated him and left him like a dog to die.

The Sikhs are good people, they show good intentioned community spirit, they have a record of supplying food to those most in need and have gone to great lengths and distance to do that, my anger is not with them.

My anger is with a system that constantly fails people, we have a knife problem in this country, time after time after ****ing time, we ask when the government is going to do something, and still nothing - as Badenoch likes to say, DO YOUR JOB!

Coppers make mistakes when faced with adversity, they have to make instant difficult decisions, but the guy on the ground was not a risk, you was even told they were trying to hold him up before you arrived.

He told you he couldn't breath, he told you he had been stabbed, the truth is you saw a young white male and made horrendus decisions, I suspect the claim of the turban being pulled off spurred on your train of thought.

It ticked all the boxes they've been trained to tick, no thinking outside the box. I remember a time when you could have a decent conversation with a copper, I remember the time when the first thought wasn't to get a tasar out, when the first thought wasn't to stick cuffs on you - where you could look them in the eye and have a reasoned examination of the events that occurred.

It's good of the Sikh community to come out and make a public statement, it's good of Sikhs to stand up in Parliament, they are clearly worried about any racism that will follow this event, the Sikhs are not the problem, the problem is the way people in authrority have been primed by our politicians to think of all white people that dare speak out as right wing.

BUT this lad didn't do anything...

It was pure indoctrination. Policiticians we are looking at you again.
 
I'm going to have a rant, buckle up bro...

New charges, shouldn't these charges have already been rolling, the CPS would have seen the bodycam long before any member of the public or the media, it didn't take me more than a few minutes to work out that the family were accomplicies to murder.

In real life I've actually stood by Sikhs who have experienced racism in life, I have called it out, very loudly as well. Confronted it head on.

I don't even care if they have a ceremonial dagger, although it goes against my opinions on knives being carried.

However, sadly racism works both ways, and this family gathered to make the victim out to be the perpetrator, dare I say this demonstrates their own hatred of a human being to make up such lies, treated him and left him like a dog to die.

The Sikhs are good people, they show good intentioned community spirit, they have a record of supplying food to those most in need and have gone to great lengths and distance to do that, my anger is not with them.

My anger is with a system that constantly fails people, we have a knife problem in this country, time after time after ****ing time, we ask when the government is going to do something, and still nothing - as Badenoch likes to say, DO YOUR JOB!

Coppers make mistakes when faced with adversity, they have to make instant difficult decisions, but the guy on the ground was not a risk, you was even told they were trying to hold him up before you arrived.

He told you he couldn't breath, he told you he had been stabbed, the truth is you saw a young white male and made horrendus decisions, I suspect the claim of the turban being pulled off spurred on your train of thought.

It ticked all the boxes they've been trained to tick, no thinking outside the box. I remember a time when you could have a decent conversation with a copper, I remember the time when the first thought wasn't to get a tasar out, when the first thought wasn't to stick cuffs on you - where you could look them in the eye and have a reasoned examination of the events that occurred.

It's good of the Sikh community to come out and make a public statement, it's good of Sikhs to stand up in Parliament, they are clearly worried about any racism that will follow this event, the Sikhs are not the problem, the problem is the way people in authrority have been primed by our politicians to think of all white people that dare speak out as right wing.

BUT this lad didn't do anything...

It was pure indoctrination. Policiticians we are looking at you again.

Pretty fine rant, tbf ...
 
One copper in the Nowak case has resigned.
If it’s the one who told him “I don’t think you have mate” he should be in fuking jail in remand before he goes to court

I cannot imagine how the family feel after seeing that footage it’s beyond disgusting for me that copper should be up for manslaughter
 
If it’s the one who told him “I don’t think you have mate” he should be in fuking jail in remand before he goes to court

I cannot imagine how the family feel after seeing that footage it’s beyond disgusting for me that copper should be up for manslaughter
do that you will have no coppers left which would suit certain people
 
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do that you will have no coppers left which would suit certain people
Mate **** that

That kid dies because of that copper imo

There’s no fuking way he shouldn’t be up for manslaughter

Don’t give a **** about other coppers that one should be in jail
 
I'm not saying it's not disgusting, but if a coroner has ruled that his injuries were so severe that he couldn't be saved you're not going to be able to charge the copper with manslaughter.
so what the copper just resigns and that’s that

Fukin hell like
 
If it’s the one who told him “I don’t think you have mate” he should be in fuking jail in remand before he goes to court

I cannot imagine how the family feel after seeing that footage it’s beyond disgusting for me that copper should be up for manslaughter
My thoughts align with Solid's in that we will have no coppers left - It's certainly not what I was alluding to in my rant on the previous page, we need to understand why this has come about and I point more at the indoctrination of the system by our politicians and the officers training.

I said in my rant, why do coppers instantly go to a tasar these days, or instantly cuff someone, it's certainly not my experience of how things use to be done back in the day, unless you watched too much of the Sweeney.

I was watching the bladerunner the other night, the guy that films all the taking down of the ULEZ cameras - he's just been up in court, to be charged at a later date for an altercation with a traffic warden - you can imagine what it was like lol.

But there was another video of his I watched, where he was being his usual provocative self, and he was taking the piss out of two female police officers, I forget the names he tagged them with, but he was referring to their height, sort of around 5 foot for one and 5ft 2in for the other, and of course he's a big guy, so they looked like dwarfs.

He's like so who are these two going to be able to arrest. Quite cantankerously as always, but with a laugh and a smile and one of the two officers tried not to laugh.

However, all piss taking aside, maybe this is the real problem, maybe the male colleague cuffed Nowak because they know these days that situations can quickly escalate out of control when your colleagues are only short arses. They do not have confidence, so therefore do not feel safe when dealing with confrontation.

So the go to is the safeguard.

Maybe our constant aim of equal opportunities sometimes creates risks, and in to that the mix of political rhetoric from all sides, and you end up with a deadly concoction of poor decision making that results in extreme outcomes.

The whole system is too blame, not one particular copper, but it makes it easy for everyone if you make them the fall guy, rather than having to look at the more complicated and deeper problems within the force, due to the tick box exercises they all have to confirm to and a recruitment process that is desperate.
 
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