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If course the easier alternative is to watch what the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth are doing, and just hijack their bids with offers of higher wages. Let them do the scouting for us.

Case in point Brentford are closing in on FC Koln winger Said el Mala. Why aren't they trying for Summerville? What do they know that we apparently don't?
 
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If course the easier alternative is to watch what the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth are doing, and just hijack their bids with offers of higher wages. Let them do the scouting for us.

Case in point Brentford are closing in on FC Koln winger Said el Mala. Why aren't they trying for Summerville? What do they know that we apparently don't?

Isn't that what happened with Archie Gray?

Brentford had the deal half done and...we stepped in to grossly overpay...

We need to bag someone else's DoF and recruitment set up. Maybe Palace? Whilst we're at it, their academy is pretty decent too.
 
If it's a choice between spending £50m on the likes of Savinho and Summerville, or spending nothing?

Spend nothing. Save the money for when better players become available. We keep making the mistake of spending for the sake of spending.

CK nailed it. Not spending is better than spending north of £50m on mediocrity. We’ve been the kings of overspending on mediocrity in recent years, time we let another club take that title.

Respectfully, you guys are answering a question I didn't ask.

I'm genuinely curious about who you think we should get as a left winger that we could actually get.

Going without a LW is obviously not an option, that would mean the club allowing De Zerbi to continue with an unbalanced squad. The very same thing that we rightfully crucified the board for doing in January.

You'd rather the manager not get reinforcements?

Who are the better players that we should be looking at?
 
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Isn't that what happened with Archie Gray?

Brentford had the deal half done and...we stepped in to grossly overpay...

We need to bag someone else's DoF and recruitment set up. Maybe Palace? Whilst we're at it, their academy is pretty decent too.
Dougie Freedman was the Palace DoF over a period when they signed Eze, Olise, Wharton and Guehi and was also involved in appointing Glasner as manager.
But Lange had a similar good record at Villa. So was it skill or luck or possibly some temporary edge that has long since gone? I am very sceptical about anyone having an edge in player recruitment as I don't see how where it come from. I would rather have a DoF with humility who crunched the data well.
 
Well that's one irritation on the board: Newcastle are (reportedly) looking at Betis' Abde Ezzalzouli to fill the Anthony Gordon-shaped hole their squad is likely to have by the end of the window

Ezzalzouli legit looks like the sort of LW we need, as he's got the pace of Bale, the finishing of Son, and the creativity of Deki rolled into one, plus he clearly has end product as he got 10 goals and 8 assists in La Liga this season

Why is this irritating, I hear you ask? Well, Barca have a 50% sell-on clause and a buyback, so this is the sort of deal where we'd need Levy's dark arts to avoid getting rinsed at the best of time, and that's before a potential auction breaks out
 
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Respectfully, you guys are answering a question I didn't ask.

I'm genuinely curious about who you think we should get as a left winger that we could actually get.

Going without a LW is obviously not an option, that would mean the club allowing De Zerbi to continue with an unbalanced squad. The very same thing that we rightfully crucified the board for doing in January.

You'd rather the manager not get reinforcements?

Who are the better players that we should be looking at?

That's the point. There aren't many at the moment. Plenty of young potential like Adeyemi, El Mala, Fofana etc. but it's probably better to wait until they begin to show consistency before splashing the cash, even if that means paying a premium for them.

If I had to go for a player right now who I think is gettable for Spurs?

Take advantage of Juve's lack of CL money and try to tempt them to sell Yildiz.
 
Respectfully, you guys are answering a question I didn't ask.

I'm genuinely curious about who you think we should get as a left winger that we could actually get.

Going without a LW is obviously not an option, that would mean the club allowing De Zerbi to continue with an unbalanced squad. The very same thing that we rightfully crucified the board for doing in January.

You'd rather the manager not get reinforcements?

Who are the better players that we should be looking at?
Reinforcing with poor players isn’t reinforcing though, it’s further damaging what is already a squad lacking in quality. The board were also crucified for bringing in such a poor option in January with Gallagher, a move that almost cost us relegation.

If Summerville or Savinho really are the best Lange and co can come up with, a guy relegated twice with two different clubs and a guy with just two goal contributions in the league with Man City this season then it’s damning on their eye for talent and levels of ambition, though not a surprise considering some of crap they’ve brought in.

We’d be better off investing the minutes you’d give to wasters like that in Mikey Moore, I’d rather he get the game time we give to Tel or Odobert too.

Though if we’re playing a real life football manager and I actually had the choice, I’d go for Rafa Leao. Proven in a top league over a number of years, averages almost a goal or assist every other game, CL pedigree, has the right physicality for the Prem and is rumoured to be considering his options. Can be a bit patchy but on his day he’s absolutely unplayable and probably the best calibre/ pedigree LW out there Spurs could get.
 
That's the point. There aren't many at the moment. Plenty of young potential like Adeyemi, El Mala, Fofana etc. but it's probably better to wait until they begin to show consistency before splashing the cash, even if that means paying a premium for them.

If I had to go for a player right now who I think is gettable for Spurs?

Take advantage of Juve's lack of CL money and try to tempt them to sell Yildiz.

Yildiz apparently wants to stay at Juve.

Reinforcing with poor players isn’t reinforcing though, it’s further damaging what is already a squad lacking in quality. The board were also crucified for bringing in such a poor option in January with Gallagher, a move that almost cost us relegation.

If Summerville or Savinho really are the best Lange and co can come up with, a guy relegated twice with two different clubs and a guy with just two goal contributions in the league with Man City this season then it’s damning on their eye for talent and levels of ambition, though not a surprise considering some of crap they’ve brought in.

We’d be better off investing the minutes you’d give to wasters like that in Mikey Moore, I’d rather he get the game time we give to Tel or Odobert too.

Though if we’re playing a real life football manager and I actually had the choice, I’d go for Rafa Leao. Proven in a top league over a number of years, averages almost a goal or assist every other game, CL pedigree, has the right physicality for the Prem and is rumoured to be considering his options. Can be a bit patchy but on his day he’s absolutely unplayable and probably the best calibre/ pedigree LW out there Spurs could get.

Are you guys saying that if you were the DOF, and De Zerbi says he needs a LW amongst other players to balance the squad, you're gonna tell him that he must do without and wait, even if he'd rather a Savinho than go without? All because we're simply not attractive enough for Diomande [One of my choices], Yildiz or Leao?

Bear in mind that Savinho and Summerville both have PL experience, which could also be a prime criteria for De Zerbi.

Doesn't that sound exactly like how they did Frank in January after leaving the left wing bare after Son?

Didn't you hear the urgency in De Zerbi's message about the club needing to rebalance the squad with top players because they've suffered enough? Also that he needs his players before the pre-season?

If Moore was ready I'm sure he'd be back in the squad instead of doing a another Rangers loan season, which is being reported.

Personally I'd be glad for any LW that De Zerbi actually approves of working with and that he sees as capable for what he requires. Ndiaye, Savinho, Summerville or anyone else. I almost don't care now, as long as the manager approves.

What we can't do is dick about all the way through the window unsuccessfully trying to convince players that don't wanna come, instead of getting business done early with players that actually want to play for the club and work with the manager now.

This idea of PL players not being good enough for Tottenham is rich in my opinion, especially when we just had our narrow escape.

I don't understand the mentality.



P.S. The "Gallagher signing almost causing us relegation" is one of the wildest takes I've seen on here.

Crazy work.

We lost Son and Johnson, two of our highest goal contributors last season and didn't replace the goals or assists. That had much more to do with relegation form than Gallagher coming in. As did the injury list, and the poor management.
 
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Yildiz apparently wants to stay at Juve.



Are you guys saying that if you were the DOF, and De Zerbi says he needs a LW amongst other players to balance the squad, you're gonna tell him that he must do without and wait, even if he'd rather a Savinho than go without? All because we're simply not attractive enough for Diomande [One of my choices], Yildiz or Leao?

Bear in mind that Savinho and Summerville both have PL experience, which could also be a prime criteria for De Zerbi.

Doesn't that sound exactly like how they did Frank in January after leaving the left wing bare after Son?

Didn't you hear the urgency in De Zerbi's message about the club needing to rebalance the squad with top players because they've suffered enough? Also that he needs his players before the pre-season?

If Moore was ready I'm sure he'd be back in the squad instead of doing a another Rangers loan season, which is being reported.

Personally I'd be glad for any LW that De Zerbi actually approves of working with and that he sees as capable for what he requires. Ndiaye, Savinho, Summerville or anyone else. I almost don't care now, as long as the manager approves.

What we can't do is dick about all the way through the window unsuccessfully trying to convince players that don't wanna come, instead of getting business done early with players that actually want to play for the club and work with the manager now.

This idea of PL players not being good enough for Tottenham is rich in my opinion, especially when we just had our narrow escape.

I don't understand the mentality.

I kinda agree. As long as the manager wants them (no more club signings) then I’m fine with them.

Savinho doesn’t appeal to me at all and bit weird that he keeps being linked regardless of who the manager is.

I can see the comparisons between Summerville and Odobert and Tel but I wouldn’t be against Spurs signing him if De Zerbi rates him.

I also wouldn’t mind seeing Moore being given a chance, he did well at Rangers and I’ve not seen anything from any of the current wingers that make me think they’re better than him.
 
Yildiz apparently wants to stay at Juve.



Are you guys saying that if you were the DOF, and De Zerbi says he needs a LW amongst other players to balance the squad, you're gonna tell him that he must do without and wait, even if he'd rather a Savinho than go without? All because we're simply not attractive enough for Diomande [One of my choices], Yildiz or Leao?

Bear in mind that Savinho and Summerville both have PL experience, which could also be a prime criteria for De Zerbi.

Doesn't that sound exactly like how they did Frank in January after leaving the left wing bare after Son?

Didn't you hear the urgency in De Zerbi's message about the club needing to rebalance the squad with top players because they've suffered enough? Also that he needs his players before the pre-season?

If Moore was ready I'm sure he'd be back in the squad instead of doing a another Rangers loan season, which is being reported.

Personally I'd be glad for any LW that De Zerbi actually approves of working with and that he sees as capable for what he requires. Ndiaye, Savinho, Summerville or anyone else. I almost don't care now, as long as the manager approves.

What we can't do is dick about all the way through the window unsuccessfully trying to convince players that don't wanna come, instead of getting business done early with players that actually want to play for the club and work with the manager now.

This idea of PL players not being good enough for Tottenham is rich in my opinion, especially when we just had our narrow escape.

I don't understand the mentality.
Why one earth would you actively want bad players at this club?

There’s no logic to that. We’ve just finished 17th for the second season in a row and you’re advocating to sign players who won’t improve us one jot?

Summerville also isn’t a PL player now is he? He’s been relegated… for the second time. You wanting him to make it a hat trick or something?

Aim higher for Christ sake, it’s no wonder we find ourselves in the positions we’ve been if fans think players like Summerville are gonna help us.
 
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Why one earth would you actively want bad players at this club?

There’s no logic to that. We’ve just finished 17th for the second season in a row and you’re advocating to sign players who won’t improve us one jot?

Summerville also isn’t a PL player now is he? He’s been relegated… for the second time. You wanting him to make it a hat trick or something?

Aim higher for Christ sake, it’s no wonder we find ourselves in the positions we’ve been if fans think players like Summerville are gonna help us.
Surely it only matters what the manager thinks though and if they sign off on it then on their head be it.

Personally I don’t see a massive upgrade with Summerville but I genuinely don’t know on savinho, there must have been something there for city to originally buy him but he’s barely played so hardly seen anything of him and they upgraded to semenyo pretty quickly but obviously the standards at city are a lot different to our current standards.
 
Surely it only matters what the manager thinks though and if they sign off on it then on their head be it.

Personally I don’t see a massive upgrade with Summerville but I genuinely don’t know on savinho, there must have been something there for city to originally buy him but he’s barely played so hardly seen anything of him and they upgraded to semenyo pretty quickly but obviously the standards at city are a lot different to our current standards.
How do we know the manager wants them? We’ve been linked with Savinho for a year now, he especially screams more of a club/ Lange signing.

Neither player has done anything of note so far. We’re in desperate need of a good LW to essentially try and replace to a respectable degree what we lost with Son and the best the club’s seemingly coming up with is a backup at City and a guy relegated with two different clubs. It’s no different to thinking either Richarlison or Solanke could cover the Kane loss, we’ll never get a striker as good as him but we dropped our standards 6 feet under signing those two to replace such a legendary player.

It’s beyond frustrating seeing this club act like a midtable side, more so when our own fans are seemingly on board with it.
 
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Surely it only matters what the manager thinks though and if they sign off on it then on their head be it.

Personally I don’t see a massive upgrade with Summerville but I genuinely don’t know on savinho, there must have been something there for city to originally buy him but he’s barely played so hardly seen anything of him and they upgraded to semenyo pretty quickly but obviously the standards at city are a lot different to our current standards.

This is where I am now too.

As long as the managers rate them and will play them then I’m all good with it.
 
How do we know the manager wants them? We’ve been linked with Savinho for a year now, he especially screams more of a club/ Lange signing.

Neither player has done anything of note so far. We’re in desperate need of a good LW to essentially try and replace to a respectable degree what we lost with Son and the best the club’s seemingly coming up with is a backup at City and a guy relegated with two different clubs. It’s no different to thinking either Richarlison or Solanke could cover the Kane loss, we’ll never get a striker as good as him but we dropped our standards 6 feet under signing those two to replace such a legendary player.

It’s beyond frustrating seeing this club act like a midtable side, more so when our own fans are seemingly on board with it.
I would hope the manager signs off on any player lined up to come into the first team squad. De Zerbi doesn’t seem the kind of guy to just stick around and take what’s given to him. I would assume they sit down with him and go through the players we’ve already scouted and think are available and gettable.

Where I do agree with you though and maybe it’s just my football manager head speaking but you’d think a club like us would have a long list of players from all around the world to look at potential buys from.