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One of yer Norvern Saints

One of yer Norvern Saints

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Just musing this morning while discussing the CL final prospects and it got me thinking

Bournemouth. Remember when prematch chat was often about how well our plucky neighbours were doing in the Championship?

Crystal Palace. They were my local team when we beat them in ‘76. Always liked them and was delighted when they won the Cup. Lost two big stars and win a European trophy.

Aston Villa. The perennial joke. I love Villa fans. Their gallows humour is second to none. Not exactly relegation fodder now, are they?

Ignoring the ‘sleeping giant’ bollocks about Villa, these three clubs have clearly got something right while we’ve been going down the pan.

Management? Structure? Investment? What do you reckon? And more significantly, do we have things in place to emulate them?
 
So as those bloody meerkats say ‘simples’. I’m surprised. How much is the manager turn over a symptom rather than cause. It is axiomatic that there may be problems with the owners, but assuming they’re not using the club for money laundering from elicit sources then surely they want to be investing in a successful club. So what is going wrong and what needs to be done better?
 
Our day will come. Whether I'll be alive to see it is another matter, but I was alive to see it in 76, and I was alive for back to back promotions this century. Our time will come again, the universe progresses in cycles.
 
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- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
Managers since 2022:

Bournemouth: Parker -> O'Neil -> Iraola
Crystal Palace: Vieira -> Hodgson -> Glasner
Aston Villa: Gerrard -> Emery

Saints: Hasenhuttl -> Jones -> Selles -> Martin -> Juric -> Still -> Eckert

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Yep. Villa were right in the **** if I recall and were looking for a manager at the sane time we were.

They got Emery and our incredibly clever owners went for Nathan ****ing Jones
 
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The trouble is though any team outside say the top six can have a blip at any time. Get a few signings wrong anything can happen. Look at us a few years ago doing really well great signings then a few bad ones now look where we are.
 
Aside from Villa who are comparable to Everton, Spurs and Newcastle in the, historically big clubs with large fan bases and stadiums.

All other clubs have ebs and flows dependent on the success rates of managers and player signings.. Palace and Bournemouth weren't doing much when we beat Inter Milan.

The difference now is the English game has so much money relative to our peak 10-years ago. Add in the Conference League, which has been won 3 out 4 times by an English club. As well as the reformatting of the Europa League to remove the Champions League 3rd place sides, who usually won it. All factors have made them significantly more likely to be won by English clubs.

We would 100% have been with a shot of Europe League or Conference League win if the situation was in place 10 years ago, not 4.

Both Bournemouth and Palace will be Championship clubs again one day soon and most of the Championship will get a shot at Premier League too.
 
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One of yer Norvern Saints said:
Just musing this morning while discussing the CL final prospects and it got me thinking

Bournemouth. Remember when prematch chat was often about how well our plucky neighbours were doing in the Championship?

Crystal Palace. They were my local team when we beat them in ‘76. Always liked them and was delighted when they won the Cup. Lost two big stars and win a European trophy.

Aston Villa. The perennial joke. I love Villa fans. Their gallows humour is second to none. Not exactly relegation fodder now, are they?

Ignoring the ‘sleeping giant’ bollocks about Villa, these three clubs have clearly got something right while we’ve been going down the pan.

Management? Structure? Investment? What do you reckon? And more significantly, do we have things in place to emulate them?
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Or you could look at Saints themselves 2010 to 2016 and thereafter. I think we have all witnessed the answer
 
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