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bcfcredandwhite said:
I personally dread the next election. I hope I’ve found a way to beat Brexit and live in Spain by the time it comes around.
I’ve seen the country I love deteriorate and become so polluted and twisted that my fellow brethren are seriously putting their faith in someone like Farage to ‘fix’ things.
There’s no way back from this.
We’re galloping towards oblivion and people are whipping the horses to get them to take us there faster.
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People who can see what’s going on with literally everything in this country and who voice any sort of questioning or dissent are called far right bigots by the absolute ****er Starmer and his hopeless government

As RP says, the Tories and Labour have caused the mess we’re in from immigration to the energy crisis and law and order to the welfare state, and between them they are wholly responsible for this total **** show, which is why Farage needs a shot

I’ve said before I’m not blase of blinkered enough to think that Reform have all the answers and/or quick fixes, but imho he is the most experienced and personable politician we have, but most importantly, he sees what i and millions of others, including yourself see before your very eyes and applies common sense. That’s been sadly lacking for decades

The others don’t see it, and even if they do they do absolutely nothing of note to effectively change things

If you end up in Spain I wish you all the luck in the world and hope you have a beer or 10 in the Lord Nelson in Gibraltar for me <cheers>
 
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Redprintt said:
I blame the Conservative Party for the entire mess we're in because it allowed some poor fools believe that Labour would be better.
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This follows my drum beating in past posts is that the missing 8 million tory voters gifted Liebour and 2 tier in it [ the s*** Rishi dropped us in it maybe thinking the GE would be a lot closer? WE WERE getting back to everything positive everything was going up or improving.. YES the conservative party dropped us in it...... via the missing voters [ Liebours vote was close to normal! ] And reform vote was the devils advocate !!!!!

BAD ERROR BY Rishi.......!!!!!!!
Redprintt said:
Voting Tory next time, for me, is as daft as voting Labour last election.
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Problem here RP is that it is another unknown! you may well have 5 parties as main liners bearing in mind concensus is that around 120 LIEBOUR MP's are there by skin of their teeth via reform or tory just missing out and coming second.
Lib dems will gain another 30 or 40 seats but them Reform and the latest newbie party are likely to siphon off some of the tory orientated [ as it stands at the moment! ]

Angelicnumber16 said:
When Streeting says waiting lists are coming down, those are major factors
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check my post on the smoke and mirrors!!!!!!
Redprintt said:
the mess you describe brought on us by Conservative and Labour governments and are willing to give Reform a chance
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who ever takes it it will need a return to 2010.........!

bcfcredandwhite said:
. I hope I’ve found a way to beat Brexit and live in Spain by the time it comes around.
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if Spain doesnt take it over!!!!
 
realred1952 said:
This follows my drum beating in past posts is that the missing 8 million tory voters gifted Liebour and 2 tier in it [ the s*** Rishi dropped us in it maybe thinking the GE would be a lot closer? WE WERE getting back to everything positive everything was going up or improving.. YES the conservative party dropped us in it...... via the missing voters [ Liebours vote was close to normal! ] And reform vote was the devils advocate !!!!!

BAD ERROR BY Rishi.......!!!!!!!

Problem here RP is that it is another unknown! you may well have 5 parties as main liners bearing in mind concensus is that around 120 LIEBOUR MP's are there by skin of their teeth via reform or tory just missing out and coming second.
Lib dems will gain another 30 or 40 seats but them Reform and the latest newbie party are likely to siphon off some of the tory orientated [ as it stands at the moment! ]


check my post on the smoke and mirrors!!!!!!

who ever takes it it will need a return to 2010.........!


if Spain doesnt take it over!!!!
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BAD ERROR BY Rishi.......!!!!!!!

And because of the mess we’re now in and the awful mistakes and lack of foresight, also like to nominate Cameron, May and Johnson as making bad, and terrible errors over the last ten years or more
 
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Angelicnumber16 said:
also like to nominate Cameron, May and Johnson as making bad, and terrible errors over the last ten years or more
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the unfortunate thing is Boris was shot down more so than the others because of covid rule breaking we were going great guns before the COVID everything was going up up up positively in the right directions ... some of the things he instigated like NHS / POLICE/ HOUSE BUILDING ETC 2 tier was trying to reap the rewards from

Just acknowledge that at the moment LIEBOUR is "blaming tories for that fictitous £20m Blackhole" but have allowed and enhanced the gifts and costs of the increasing number of boat people around £15bn++ and failing to compensate the current fuel and energy costs WHEN UNDER bORIS he managed to find almost £1trn for covid and energy problems and also had to deal with 2 + years of LIEBOUR BACKED STRIKES

Maggie and Boris both did a lot to sort the country and protect us from many bleak winters ahead...... even the latter years of BLIAR and Brown PALE INTO the background to that of the last near 2 years...
 
Under May and Johnson the key points people voted for with Brexit were betrayed

Under Johnson alone millions of foreign people have entered this country legally and illegally bringing all of their dependents with them and that’s why it’s known as the Boris Wave

Because of this catastrophic policy snd the dereliction of duty to protect our borders, we are now in this mess

It’s not even like the Eastern Europeans coming here that were at least of a similar culture and who brought much needed skills such as building, electrics, plumbing to the UK along with a good work ethic

When we started kicking them out they were replaced with the scrounging, no skills influx from the Middle East and Africa who we now pay for while they gobble up the last few council houses and cost us billions

All this nightmare that came true during this period ,is squarely at Boris’ and the Tories door

I liked him when he first came to power but he is a very flawed person and his government ultimately betrayed this country, certainly on immigration

Still, at least he’s not the son of a toolmaker, because toolmakers make tools as we know !! <laugh>
 
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Angelicnumber16 said:
It’s not even like the Eastern Europeans coming here that were at least of a similar culture and who brought much needed skills such as building, electrics, plumbing to the UK along with a good work ethic
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I ACTUALLY KNOW QUITE A FEW of these and some had to fight to stay when the Kicking out started. AT that time it was the right thing to do as most of these "useful ones" are still here and most of the scroungers "left" . problem was and it was sort of in control with things like RWANDA a deterrent.............
Angelicnumber16 said:
When we started kicking them out they were replaced with the scrounging, no skills influx from the Middle East and Africa who we now pay for while they gobble up the last few council houses and cost us billions
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Biggest PROBLEM manifested itself when Liebour got in and within days besides inventing a black hole of their own making kowtowing to the strikes and paying out billions and cancelling RWANDA THAT opened the doors to todays flood non useful illegals [ bear in mind under Boris most including illegals had a useful trade and deportee's were "scroungers" and it was shown via TV programmes ...... criminal gangs.

PMQ' s again yesterday had 2 tier inoring giving an answer and waiting till his last reply to make a statement which was totally opposite and fictional ... I wonder how many others could see it for what is was... bull sh**e
 
The BBC are heralding Labour (yet again) today as net migration is down to a mere 171,000
Presumably that doesn’t include any illegals or all the millionaires and billionaires that have fled the country since the idiots took over to places like Dubai and Portugal where their money and business skills aren’t hammered into the ground by a bunch of communists
 
its all smoke and mirrors they take the headline and ignore the facts......like PMQ'S yesterday on last comment 2 TIER stated record waiting list to NHS DOWN
IT is not physically . .... ,gov is paying for the names of those have died or went private or didnt need the appointment so let it lapse, most of that number are from updating records [[ paper list if you like ] didnt need treatment didnt recieve treatment or didnt want to go ahead...... my record for hip and shoulder are open on the list bt not ready personally ready to undergo either because of present treatment
 
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realred1952 said:
its all smoke and mirrors they take the headline and ignore the facts......like PMQ'S yesterday on last comment 2 TIER stated record waiting list to NHS DOWN
IT is not physically . .... ,gov is paying for the names of those have died or went private or didnt need the appointment so let it lapse, most of that number are from updating records [[ paper list if you like ] didnt need treatment didnt recieve treatment or didnt want to go ahead...... my record for hip and shoulder are open on the list bt not ready personally ready to undergo either because of present treatment
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Before finally getting a date for my knee replacement I was sent texts on 3 separate occasions over the course of 8 months by North Bristol NHS asking if I still wanted the surgery !
In the end I think I wore them down by saying yes every time
 
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Angelicnumber16 said:
Before finally getting a date for my knee replacement I was sent texts on 3 separate occasions over the course of 8 months by North Bristol NHS asking if I still wanted the surgery !
In the end I think I wore them down by saying yes every time
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Good luck with that one mate - hope you get to dust off your Astros and kick a ball again soon <cheers>
 
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It’s been officially announced that 1 in 5 of the current UK population were not born in this country

Until we stop the pull factor of benefits to these people from certain countries things will continue to decline even more. And that’s saying something!
 
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Nearly 1,000 new scroungers have illegally crossed the channel since Friday

More state burden of initial cost and possibly danger for us, and millions more to be paid in benefits using tax payer money that we don’t have, and all the while the French are still enabling these crossings
 
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ANDY BURNUM just another 2 tier Harmer with most of the Liebour Hippocratic tendencies. TOOK LOADS OF FREEBIES.. RENTS OUT HIS LONDON FLAT .................... does U TUNS ........


It comes as it was revealed that the Manchester Mayor has been renting out a London flat worth £480,000.

Burnham has spoken often about the difficulties faced by young people attempting to get a foothold on the housing ladder, a problem driven in part by an extortionate rental market and a lack of affordable housing hindered by the prevalence of second homes.

The potential future prime minister bought the property in Kennington in 2005 for around half of its current value.

He was criticised in 2015 when it emerged that he had, in line with guidelines at the time, claimed £1,449.98 a month from July 2012 to rent another London property close to the property he owned.

HEAVEN HELP US !
The revelations have drawn accusations of hypocrisy by Kevin Hollinrake, the Conservative Party chairman, who accused Burnham of previously using taxpayers' cash to pay the interest on his mortgage, prior to a rule change in the wake of the expenses scandal.

Mr Hollinrake told the Daily Mail: "The self-styled King of the North, it turns out, has kept a rather comfortable foothold south of the river.

"Bought thanks to expenses, doubled in value, rented out for profit - despite cries of unfairness against the landlord class he is a part of. There is a certain whiff of hypocrisy."
 
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realred1952 said:
ANDY BURNUM just another 2 tier Harmer with most of the Liebour Hippocratic tendencies. TOOK LOADS OF FREEBIES.. RENTS OUT HIS LONDON FLAT .................... does U TUNS ........


It comes as it was revealed that the Manchester Mayor has been renting out a London flat worth £480,000.

Burnham has spoken often about the difficulties faced by young people attempting to get a foothold on the housing ladder, a problem driven in part by an extortionate rental market and a lack of affordable housing hindered by the prevalence of second homes.

The potential future prime minister bought the property in Kennington in 2005 for around half of its current value.

He was criticised in 2015 when it emerged that he had, in line with guidelines at the time, claimed £1,449.98 a month from July 2012 to rent another London property close to the property he owned.

HEAVEN HELP US !
The revelations have drawn accusations of hypocrisy by Kevin Hollinrake, the Conservative Party chairman, who accused Burnham of previously using taxpayers' cash to pay the interest on his mortgage, prior to a rule change in the wake of the expenses scandal.

Mr Hollinrake told the Daily Mail: "The self-styled King of the North, it turns out, has kept a rather comfortable foothold south of the river.

"Bought thanks to expenses, doubled in value, rented out for profit - despite cries of unfairness against the landlord class he is a part of. There is a certain whiff of hypocrisy."
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He’ll no doubt approve of the government’s plan to hand over around half of all newly built houses to immigrants then

What a total circus we’re witnessing
 
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