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Burnham isn’t even a MP so unless rules are bent or created to get around it I’m not sure he can be PM as things stand ?

Im pretty sure he can’t just be appointed into the post ?

It would need a sitting Labour MP to give up a safe seat to him or there to be a by-election and have him stand instead of the incumbent is my understanding.

With ministers now resigning and surely the most unpopular PM in British history. we now need a General Election

This Government isn’t fit for purpose and never was
They won with a landslide majority and they still managed to **** it up

Popular rumour is that Clive Lewis is going to step down so that Burnham can take his seat…

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They inherited a mess, whoever won was on a hiding to nothing.
SORRY ASHTON they didnt inherit a mess... the facts are now history....... agree there was a mess... but interest rates were on the slide targetted at 3% by end of 2024/ early 2025 inflation diving toward 2% or less economy /gdp on upward positive spiral. unemployment going down energy bills stable and decreasing... housing advancing at rate toward 250,300 [ bear in mind most houses built completed by end of 2025 were off the tory approved and booked for construction ] look at all those things now plus people are paying at least 12.5% more tax I am!!! the pension policy I have my tax paid from is a static one this year the tax is amount dededucte is 12.5% more than 2023/2024 amount. the increase of one of my my pensions negated by how much tax I pay this year!
they have created their own cauldron of mis management and disasters .... note one thing boat people only figures published are costing every tax payer more than £400 per annum in tax [ about £8 per week ] layabouts etc and welfare costing almost as much as the inome tax gathered! add on lies and deceit and headless chickens having no plan to rectify the situation ............
 
smoke and mirrors......
On becoming health secretary, Wes Streeting said the NHS was “broken”.
Has now resigned is it because the the truth is coming out!!!!!!
" under my watch it is on course for “the fastest improvement in NHS waiting times in history”.!!!!!!
The truth is..............

The 110,000 drop in March brought the backlog down to 7.11 million and meant he had achieved only the “interim” target set by Sir Keir Starmer of treating 65 per cent of patients within 18 weeks.

But closer analysis of the data underpinning this accolade show it is almost entirely attributable to patients being removed from waiting lists rather than more people being treated.
More than 351,000 cases were removed from the NHS waiting list in March without the patient receiving treatment, about 100,000 more than the average over the previous 12 months.

The NHS denies this is why the waiting list is falling.

Hospitals were paid £33 by the organisation for every patient pulled off the list throughout the last financial year, while there has also been a £120m “sprint” to meet the target since January.

“Remember when Keir Starmer and Wes Streeting used to spout out the line that they had delivered five million extra appointments? They soon dropped that when Kemi Badenoch pointed out the last Conservative Government delivered 6.5 million.
“This Labour Government are trying to con the British people and taking patients for fools,
but we all know they are failing to deliver real cuts to waiting lists.”

Mr Streeting, who is the MP for Ilford, also told Sir Keir that under his watch A&E waits are improving.
However, this is only true against the four-hour target, with 77 per cent of patients seen within that timeframe in the past two months.
It had previously been hovering around 75 per cent, which was similar to the last Conservative government, albeit demand had increased.
This success was not felt throughout the emergency departments, with elderly patients increasingly left waiting for a hospital bed in corridors and cupboards.
In January, more than 71,500 patients waited 12 hours in A&E for a hospital bed, which was the highest monthly figure since records began in 2010.
In April, this figure stood at 47,750, which is the highest for the time of year.
“Today’s data shows a 7 per cent increase in delays of over 12 hours in emergency departments compared to April last year. It is evident acute and emergency care remains at crisis point.”

On improving GP access, Mr Streeting has made it mandatory for surgeries to let patients book appointments online.
In his resignation letter, the outgoing health secretary also said he had delivered his promise to recruit 2,000 more family doctors.

However, this is not a net improvement, as it does not account for those who have quit or equate to full-time GPs of which there are increasingly few.
Official data show that there are now 28,906 “full-time equivalent” GPs across England, which is 1,244 more than when Mr Streeting took charge.
But it is still almost 500 fewer than September 2015 despite the population of the country growing by around four million.

reason for resignation to stand for for PM ......... NOT the best choice for more smoke lies and mirrors
 
This country is drinking in the last chance saloon thanks to liberal ‘no blame’ and ‘diversity is our strength’ politics with no sense of reality as to what we’ve done to ourselves

If the Tories and Labour are the answer to the total **** show we’ve ended up with since the end of WW2 I’d hate to know what the question was !

Quite prepared to be proved wrong if Reform can’t change the course of our death spiral, but as a country we are all poorer than the poorest state in the US
A welfare state with the entire nation on benefits and where hard work and being an honest citizen works against you is ridiculous
A sobering fact is that our current welfare bill exceeds the revenue the Government get from Income Tax
So even to the under qualified and financially illiterate Reeves, it’s obvious what needs to happen
But Labour can’t because of their own divided back benchers
 
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It was always going to be problematic when Teresa May was a firm remainer and a lot of the Tory party were the same
It should have been good for the country but was implemented terribly and the things people voted for didn’t happen due to an uncommitted government
 
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Voting for me is easy -
1) Conservative (Classy leader in Kami and a plan)
OR
2) Reform (Don't like Farage and one trick ponies but do like anti EU and immigration control) better than Labour
OR
3) Don't bother to vote and contact the local funeral director
 
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Voting for me is easy -

I blame the Conservative Party for the entire mess we're in because it allowed some poor fools believe that Labour would be better.
Nige sees immigration, especially the chancers landing on the south coast, exactly the same way as everyone I know.
Voting Tory next time, for me, is as daft as voting Labour last election.
It'll split the 'right' vote allowing the incumbent shower of sh*t to continue in government.
 
We don’t seem to be able to deliver much of value in this country when you consider 100 odd miles of HS2 is costing more than the recent manned NASA moon mission with Artemis II ffs !!

Just crazy

Plus all the patients either dying or choosing private health over the NHS these days

When Streeting says waiting lists are coming down, those are major factors
 
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RP I like your ' I blame the Conservative Party for the entire mess we're in because it allowed some poor fools believe that Labour would be better.' and agree.
I wasn't one of the poor fools or idiots that voted Starmer and his bunch of liars in.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I happen to believe a lesson learned is better than false promises from 'Drama Queens'
I may be wrong but I can't wait for the next opportunity to vote and take that chance.
 
I personally dread the next election. I hope I’ve found a way to beat Brexit and live in Spain by the time it comes around.
I’ve seen the country I love deteriorate and become so polluted and twisted that my fellow brethren are seriously putting their faith in someone like Farage to ‘fix’ things.
There’s no way back from this.
We’re galloping towards oblivion and people are whipping the horses to get them to take us there faster.
 
R&W
Some still hope there's a way out of the mess you describe brought on us by Conservative and Labour governments and are willing to give Reform a chance.
Your view may prevail about Reform.........the other 2 have brought us to this point so I can't fathom why I should vote for them again.
You've chosen to leave and good luck to you.