Match Day Thread Play Off Final. Hull City v Boro

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Hadn't heard of this (or forgotten, I was 4 at the time) so had a nosey. It was the 1984 Associate Member's Cup Final, mad to think we didn't appear at Wembley for another 24 years because of a horse show. Worth the wait though.

I was there, after the Burnley result it was the dampest of damp squibs. :emoticon-0138-think


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Yes yes no no yes
OK, then surely Southampton or Boro will appeal if it goes in favour of one or the other? That would leave a default Hull City promotion as the only plausible solution for EFL BUT why do you say that Southampton and Boro cannot appeal a default promotion?
 
OK, then surely Southampton or Boro will appeal if it goes in favour of one or the other? That would leave a default Hull City promotion as the only plausible solution for EFL BUT why do you say that Southampton and Boro cannot appeal a default promotion?
Boro can’t appeal- they have provided evidence. It’s only Southampton and the EFL who could appeal
 
Can any of you legal eagles provide definitive yes or no to the following questions please:

1. If the recommendation is Southampton out and Boro play, can Southampton appeal?
2. If the recommendation is Southampton play, can Boro appeal?
3. If the recommendation is Hull City promoted by default, can Southampton and Boro appeal?
4. If the recommendation is Hull City promoted by default, can Southampton appeal?
5. If the recommendation is not to the liking of the EFL, can they appeal?

Maybe 2&3 are invalid because only Southampton and EFL can appeal?
Only the EFL and Southampton can appeal anything. The best Boro can do is sue Soton - they can’t appeal. So the EFL will recommend a punishment, the panel will decide whether to impose that or vary it. If they impose something different to the EFL recommendation, the EFL can appeal. Southampton have the right of appeal over what the panel decide, but the appeal will be expedited (held in a much shorter timeframe than usual).
 
OK, then surely Southampton or Boro will appeal if it goes in favour of one or the other? That would leave a default Hull City promotion as the only plausible solution for EFL BUT why do you say that Southampton and Boro cannot appeal a default promotion?
Southampton can
Boro can’t
EFL don’t care
 
That is what I really needed to know. So Boro cannot appeal any recommendation.
That’s why the independent panel will probably come up with something that is palatable to both the EFL and Southampton which will ensure Saturdays final goes ahead. Middlesbrough are the ones who will most likely have to suck it up.
 
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My niece use to work at the Gibson hotel. An ex colleague who is her best mate has spent all week compiling evidence. She obviously wasn’t allowed to disclose what, but presumably for a future Gibson court case.
 
That’s why the independent panel will probably come up with something that is palatable to both the EFL and Southampton which will ensure Saturdays final goes ahead. Middlesbrough are the ones who will most likely have to suck it up.

I keep thinking it will be a big fine as the EFL get the cash so will be happy, Saints get to play and M’Boro get to sue Saints separately for loss of earnings, which will likely get settled out of court.
 
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I keep thinking it will be a big fine as the EFL get the cash so will be happy, Saints get to play and M’Boro get to sue Saints separately for loss of earnings, which will likely get settled out of court.

I agree - likely. Possible ban for Tonda E. although not sure if panel have power to do that and unlikely it'd apply for Saturday anyway.
 
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I agree - likely. Possible ban for Tonda E. although not sure if panel have power to do that and unlikely it'd apply for Saturday anyway.

Depends if they can prove he was involved. Only reports out so far are that Saints have admitted the guy caught on camera was a Saints employee, but that he was acting alone and nobody else at the club knew he was there.

Most likely bullshit, but proving that is a different matter if the analyst is keeping his mouth shut and taking the blame.

I agree that anyone who is found to be involved will get some sort of ban, proving who was involved is the difficult bit
 
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