I wouldn't read too much into that. A few days ago I watched a video with the Boro journalist who asked Tonda if he's a cheat and he said that even if they'd won Boro's plan was to give the players a few days off and return to full training on the Monday before the final.
Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL
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Not really. They are only watching it on TV
I can’t really see how Boro can be reinstated even if we are kicked out, opens up even more cans of worms for the EFL If they do that. They probably will have their hands full with our appeals/legal claims if they do kick us out
Would add it was interesting to listen to Simon Jordan’s second interview about this. The first one he was quite laid back about the whole thing, second one not so much. But he said that his old pal Gibo wouldn’t have been that bothered by the actual spying, but he wouldn’t have liked Saints reaction to it. If it had been the other way round people would’ve been sacked as soon as the news broke including the manager and if Saints had done that he thinks that would’ve been enough for Boro to not be that fussed any more
I'm not sure it is. They'd have the usual week of training to prepare for the final and they looked tired against us - they have a smaller squad than we do and have played 48 league and playoff games this season, plus however many Cup games they had. I also doubt they're all in Burger King every day or heading down the Dog & Duck for a 12 hour session. They'd still be taking care of themselves.
Is there anything else to do in M’Boro apart from go Maccies and Spoons?
It’s frustrating not knowing our defence against the charge (admitted guilt, denied guilt, not contesting) but Saints are definitely doing the right thing by maintaining their silence.
I have just Googled what “not contesting a charge” actually means and the response was “You essentially agree to accept the punishment without formally admitting fault, which provides specific protections.”
In a civil case “Because you did not technically admit guilt, a no contest plea generally cannot be used as an admission of fault, if the victim sues you in civil court later.”
The above refers to our legal system but I would hope we have gone down the “not contested” route to stop Gibson from suing.
I have just Googled what “not contesting a charge” actually means and the response was “You essentially agree to accept the punishment without formally admitting fault, which provides specific protections.”
In a civil case “Because you did not technically admit guilt, a no contest plea generally cannot be used as an admission of fault, if the victim sues you in civil court later.”
The above refers to our legal system but I would hope we have gone down the “not contested” route to stop Gibson from suing.
I don’t believe that for one second. If the only issue was that we didn’t immediately sack people (which in the U.K. is probably sketchy legally) then he wouldn’t suddenly be pushing for us to get booted from the playoffs
This is all about how they wanted insurance against what actually happened - them losing the tie on aggregate. You can tell that by the way Boro fans are talking as if they are entitled to get something out of our punishment. And then the Friday statement confirms that. As does his behaviour with Derby in the past
Was this Jordan commentary from today or earlier in the week.. because it sounds like he’s trying to launder Gibbo’s reputation for him here
It is when they are so unfit. They can’t afford to lose anymore fitness or they wouldn’t make it to half time.
Would suggest Gibson’s wasted his time with the high priced lawyer. It probably doesn’t stop him suing. It just means he will have a harder time in the case as the case will need to prove our guilt
A few days ago.
Him and Gibbo are good mates apparently so probably hadn’t spoken to him when he did first Talksport interview. Then did and saw how annoyed/what he wanted to do and changed his tune
Anyway I’m over M’Boro and whatever they are saying. The next club calling for us to be kicked out of the league for “bringing the game into disrepute” is Hull. Their message board on here is a good read
At last. Journalist looking at what this really is.
www.thesun.co.uk
Southampton earned play-off final place, Middlesbrough couldn't hit a barn door
IT may be against the grain but calls for Southampton to be booted out of Saturday’s Championship play-off final are ridiculous and hysterical. Don’t get me wrong, what they were allegedly attempti…
www.thesun.co.uk
Rare words.At last. Journalist looking at what this really is.
Southampton earned play-off final place, Middlesbrough couldn't hit a barn door
IT may be against the grain but calls for Southampton to be booted out of Saturday’s Championship play-off final are ridiculous and hysterical. Don’t get me wrong, what they were allegedly attempti…
“I agree with the Sun”
We’re back! I was starting to think no not606 was part of the punishment
Yeah, that would have been a real bind 
I was starting to wonder if this was a covert operation by Boro and Hull to stop my match threads...that makes far more sense, however they were too late.
I was starting to wonder if this was a covert operation by Boro and Hull to stop my match threads...that makes far more sense, however they were too late.
A journo in the Sunday Mirror said the following.
I Spy A Ludicrous Fuss
News Reporter
AT international tournaments, the media is normally allowed to watch the first 10 or 15 minutes of a team’s training session before being ushered away to allow the rest to take place behind closed doors.
But if you really want to know what has gone on in the ‘private’ part of the training, there are plenty of ways of finding out.
Southampton should have used one of those ways if they really wanted to know what was going on at the Middlesbrough training ground.
But the idea that the Saints could be thrown out of the Championship play-offs if the so-called Spygate transgression is proven is simply preposterous.
Ahead of the World Cup Final in 2002, we turned up for Brazil’s final training session. After 15 minutes, we gathered our belongings, ready to leave. The Brazilian management team laughed.
Watch it all, they cried. The only thing their opponents would learn, said head coach Luiz Felipe Scolari, is how good Brazil were.
Boro are not Brazil but the idea Southampton could gain significant competitive advantage from sneaking a look at them training is ludicrous. Fine them – and move on.
I just hope they announce it today and get this over with. It's tiresome and I want to sort out what I'm doing on Sunday which will change if for example the date of the final is moved.
My boss is a Boro fan.
He just told me he has heard final is going to be on Tues next week at Old Trafford.
I said that makes sense for two northern teams.
He just told me he has heard final is going to be on Tues next week at Old Trafford.
I said that makes sense for two northern teams.