Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL

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The final is Saints v Hull.

The media has allowed the narrative to be Boros revenge not a reasonable punishment for saints.

I still think they have massively overplayed their hand. There is no way an independent panel looks at our mush in a bush, the Alan partridge sky report and Boros Star Wars intro monologue and think this is most serious instance of cheating in football ever that it is being made out to be.. Surely...
This sums it up for me.
 
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Stable door mode, but the EFL must now have a complete rethink on information gathering (spying) and publish a list of rights and wrongs, a man behind a tree is trivial compared with modern methods and every Club must be doing it, they would be negligent if they didn't. The EFL must also provide details of any potential punishments, fines are obvious, points deduction less so, although a heavy deduction, but suspended is a good deterrent, bans tend to punish the innocent, rather than the perpetrators, the buck should stop at the top, but it doesn't seem to happen that way.
This my current thinking but I am old fashioned and probably out of my depth and out of touch with 21st Century thinking?
 
Be interesting to know if it was actually the intern. A blurred photo from 150m away. Ai enhanced to make it resemble the closest lookalike on the club photo. Not hiding in a bush but standing next to a tree that's nowhere near as thick as it looks in the photo. Surveillance equipment was an iPhone. He ran into the clubhouse and changed then WALKED out the back and up a road towards the village. No car? Everything that's been said comes from Middlesbrough.. can't wait to hear saints side of it.
 
What does mush mean in Southampton?

Mush - mate, chum

Although now used in other parts of the UK the origins of this Southampton colloquialism has Romany gypsy claims. However, some historians have attributed the friendly term to French ships docking at the port in the Middle Ages, when the word 'Monsieur' was abbreviated to 'Mush'.

I heard it was when the French navy invaded and ransacked the town in 1338 during The Hundred Years War. It is said that the French called the inhabitants "mouches" (French for flies) because they all ran away.
 
I heard it was when the French navy invaded and ransacked the town in 1338 during The Hundred Years War. It is said that the French called the inhabitants "mouches" (French for flies) because they all ran away.
They wouldn't say "ran away" these days, made a tactical withdrawal is the correct interpretation. Odd how people get things wrong e,g Spy = Information gatherer.
 
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They wouldn't say "ran away" these days, made a tactical withdrawal is the correct interpretation. Odd how people get things wrong e,g Spy = Information gatherer.

They were taken by surprise because everyone was at mass in the churches and the French (1000 strong) sailed up Southampton Water undetected and docked by West Quay which was completely unguarded, the locals never stood a chance.
 
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They were taken by surprise because everyone was at mass in the churches and the French (1000 strong) sailed up Southampton Water undetected and docked by West Quay which was completely unguarded, the locals never stood a chance.
As I said before, this site is educational. Good job we are all friends now! Entente cordiale and all that.
 
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Whatever the outcome, the general onlooker will be a Hull fan at the final.

No one will want Moaning Middlesbrough or Spying Southampton to win
 
 
I'm still vexed that someone at the club acted so ridiculously stupidly and risked everything for such small gain.
But i'll be more livid if we do actually get chucked out over something that in the grand scheme of "cheating" in football is a drop in the ocean.
A big fine and a smallish points deduction would be fair and not open up a complete legal can of worms.
 
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Devils advocate here: If our agent provocateur was not in our employ at time of incident, we’d have proved that right at the beginning and all this would have gone away. Straw clutching I’m afraid.
Aren’t we keeping completely quiet publicly. Could be the first thing we say at the hearing. Because charges were raised. I don’t think they can just be dropped if we say “he wasn’t our employee”

But I expect he was our employee
 
They were taken by surprise because everyone was at mass in the churches and the French (1000 strong) sailed up Southampton Water undetected and docked by West Quay which was completely unguarded, the locals never stood a chance.

The French were led by a pirate called Grimaldi and the weath accumulated enabled him to establish his descendents as Princes of Monaco. Their wealth was at Southampton's expense.