Rumours ?
I think it'll be a big fine and a small points deduction maybe
Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL
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I think it'll be a big fine and a small points deduction maybe
Breaking:
I’ve just read that they are canceling Tuesday’s game and giving Boro a bye to the Final. We will have a 12 points deduction for next year.
They are also forcing us to sell each player for £500k only, with the exception of Bazunu, Diaz and Archer. With these players we are being forced to give them 10 year contracts at £300k/week and if we want to sell them we will be instantly relegated to the National League.
We will have no right to appeal either and will have to play all our home games behind closed doors for 15 years.
I’ve just read that they are canceling Tuesday’s game and giving Boro a bye to the Final. We will have a 12 points deduction for next year.
They are also forcing us to sell each player for £500k only, with the exception of Bazunu, Diaz and Archer. With these players we are being forced to give them 10 year contracts at £300k/week and if we want to sell them we will be instantly relegated to the National League.
We will have no right to appeal either and will have to play all our home games behind closed doors for 15 years.
If it’s Rumours , I doubt we’ll be able to go our own way .
We will be chained to the Championship .
Could they also force SR to sell us to Jeff Bezos whilst they’re at it?
You forgot about the bit that says we have to play 4-4-2 in every match with Damion Downs and BBD as the 2.
I'm puzzled at the reaction on here.
My thoughts on the practice aside the punishment will be proportionate to the crime surely? And then only applied once actual guilt is apportioned (ie the investigation is fully concluded).
Any club statement in the interim will be done in a manner that doesn't imply anything and just states full cooperation into the investigation (as they have done). Anything else at the moment will just be media noise to make a drama out of it.
You get a points deduction for incorrectly declaring the clubs financial documentation to the relevant people or running the club so badly that it goes into administration - you're not going to get one for person standing on a hill watching one training session (which according to the rule as written wouldn't have been an issue a few hours earlier).
Should it go on? No. Does it go on, probably.
If guilty I'd expect a bigger fine than Leeds got and then, I hope, a later adjustment of the rules to show they are trying the cut out the practice by making it illegal fully (no time window on it) and a upfront declaration of the penalty that is of a size that it makes it less appealing to do it on the sly on the off chance you get caught.
As for the "honest" club persona - I am fully convinced that Saints (like every other club in the country) does what all the other clubs are doing until they get told otherwise.
My thoughts on the practice aside the punishment will be proportionate to the crime surely? And then only applied once actual guilt is apportioned (ie the investigation is fully concluded).
Any club statement in the interim will be done in a manner that doesn't imply anything and just states full cooperation into the investigation (as they have done). Anything else at the moment will just be media noise to make a drama out of it.
You get a points deduction for incorrectly declaring the clubs financial documentation to the relevant people or running the club so badly that it goes into administration - you're not going to get one for person standing on a hill watching one training session (which according to the rule as written wouldn't have been an issue a few hours earlier).
Should it go on? No. Does it go on, probably.
If guilty I'd expect a bigger fine than Leeds got and then, I hope, a later adjustment of the rules to show they are trying the cut out the practice by making it illegal fully (no time window on it) and a upfront declaration of the penalty that is of a size that it makes it less appealing to do it on the sly on the off chance you get caught.
As for the "honest" club persona - I am fully convinced that Saints (like every other club in the country) does what all the other clubs are doing until they get told otherwise.
Nah if they wanted to deduct points it would have to be next season. The league for this season has already been concluded and changing the table ****s with the play offs which will already have been played.
The 72 hours part of the rule is relevant to this. If this happened on Thursday thats 48 hours so ok inside the number but the rule isn't so severe I.e. not allowed at all its just within 3 days and we were 2 days. I don't think a 24 hr breach amounts to much in terms of punishment. Certainly not expulsion that would be completely disproportionate
Playing devil's advocate a points deduction is probably the only penalty which will make it less appealing.
Proportionate is also down to perspective as well. Personally I'd argue that we did is worse than what WBA did.
For what it's worth I don't think they will deduct points, though equally I'm not arsed if they did.
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Get the 'king thread up! We need this
The 72 hours thing is because up until 72 hours before a match it's just open training, not set up for a specific match. After that the sessions focus on the tactics for the upcoming game.
Imagine thinking you could be "expelled" from the playoffs for recording some training....but only get an 8 point deduction (Leicester) for massively breaching FFP, and in the process having an unfair advantage over your competitors, especially those you finished ahead of and got relegated.
It's embarrassing for the club and us fans, but if it had happened 24hrs earlier it would have been completely "legal" to do.
It's embarrassing for the club and us fans, but if it had happened 24hrs earlier it would have been completely "legal" to do.
What happens if the "the person" who looked like a southampton analyst from a photo from the Internet, was just a random guy and this is all an elaborate fabrication to give Borough an advantage?
This would be very different if the person had snuck into a closed/private property and filmed it. If its true they were standing on a slope on a public golf course, surely anyone from Saints could turn up and just watch it?
Theres more chance of PSG buying Downes than us being kicked out of the play offs. Simply never going to happen.
Just my opinion though I believe that spying on opposition is more 'immoral' than breaching FFP. The FFP rules themselves are massively immoral in my book.
Phew! We're being let off lightly, then. I expected the EFL to insist that all our home games have to played at Fratton Park