FA only interest is stopping racism. NO interest in JUSTICE

2 many people basking in false glory of 'backin punishin racism'. No real interest in discussing IF JUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE.

It reeks of the FA saying, " We must find someone guilty of racism,to look strong against racism, WHETHER they are guilty or not"

 

FA is jeopardising lfc's season and Suarez's career on the word of an unreliable witness and the judgment of non-experts.

 

When Reading's John Mackie admitted -- admitted -- racially abusing a Sheffield Utd player, the FA banned him for three matches. Three.

 

Given the size of the ban handed out to Suarez with no independent evidence, presumably the England captain will never play again.

 

When Evra failed with his last "racism" charge, it was because of conflicting mufc "witnesses". Learned his lesson this time: no witnesses

 

Ding...ding...ding dingding!

Five star. Spot on. A fkin joke.

 

Evra also accused Ref of racism, " Your only booking me because Im black"

Evra really is an embaressingly unreliable witness

 

To be honest, I’m concerned less about the immediate effect on our season than the broader implications of this decision. It’s all very well the FA pronouncing on red cards and other internal football matters, but an accusation of racism is a much bigger social and personal issue than these clowns are qualified to judge.
Racism is a crime, not a football misdemeanour, and for someone to be stigmatized with that tag,
they should have had the right to a hearing that requires a more rigorous burden of proof and a more transparent decision making process.
Quite simply, they are neither expert enough nor impartial enough to make a decision that can utterly destroy a man’s reputation in this way.
Luis Suarez is certainly no angel, but a racist? There has to be an awful lot of compelling evidence- thoroughly examined-to come to that conclusion.
I’m waiting to hear what it is.

 

"more rigourous burden of proof".

Clear, concise - and, to my ears, in a moral, legal, ethical sense - fair, saintanton.

I suspect the FA's statement will be nothing of the sort.

 

The term 'beyond reasonable doubt' springs to mind and **** me was there enough doubt and ambiguity with the Suarez case.

 

Saint Anton

If you are charging someone with racism, you need to be absolutey sure that the person being charged IS racist,as the stigma attached to the person will last " a lifetime"

As I said the FA seemed to have gone we need to appear hard on racism, without really worrying about the evidence that has been provided, there are so many failings with the evidence I have heard it is embaressing

LFC MUST take this thru the " REAL "courts and I have no doubt if they do, the FA will come out of this looking like the clueless,bungling,kangaroo court they are.And that isnt good enough whan a human beings reputation is on the line

 

If they had evidence that was so compelling, why did it take so long to reach a decision? The whole thing just doesn't stack up.

 

I agree, but we need to see what their evidence is. Then, if the club thinks it's a load of old tosh then they can consider legal action. At the moment none of us really know much about it- if the FA want to be seen to have any integrity(ha!) then they need to make it public immediately. Delay seems to suggest they're trying to work out a wording that makes them look better.

 

@thefadotcom

 

clearly they are jealous of us and our illustrious history

 

The FA will be using the Civil Courts' definition - balance of probability.

If they used a criminal court definition - beyond reasonable doubt, the charge would have been rejected.

 

If the CPS is involved in the Terry case then surely it comes under a criminal jurisdiction, not civil?

 

Evra

You can see it on camera, he said it 10 times, you can see it on camera, 10 times he said it

hmmmm

LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Who is ?

You're like a less interesting version of KPR.

 

Actually (trying to find article I read) the FA made clear that even if the CPS failed to press charges against Terry due to lack of evidence they would pursue their own investigation BECAUSE they only have to prove balance of probability and not beyond reasonable doubt! Same as in a civil case.

So if Liverpool take it to the civil courts it will switch round: they will have to prove balance of probability that Suarez was NOT being racist as charged under the FA laws quoted.

Those laws are vague enough to make this difficult IF Suarez has admitted to using a word during an argument that refers to Evras skin colour.

This in my opinion is why the FA has picked the worst possible "test case" because (not because he's our player) it seems...that this was even by their own admission about interpretation both literally & perception of offense taken.

Again without stating for or against I believe you will now see due to this vagueness at least one complaint every Saturday. The FA's stance will be eroded from sheer number of complaints.

I also believe the first complaint has already been submitted: by Liverpool; relating to Evras admission of referring to a players ethnicity during an argument. FA now going to be in a corner:

Do they A) charge Evra & look like they're attacking the victim
B) don't charge & under the vague wording of their own law look like hypocrites & destroy in a stroke their own stance.
C) state no evidence other than Evras admission which if he withdraws casts a doubt on the rest of his statement.

I think this would be where LFC could heap more pressure but risk being seen to intimidate the "victim"