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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    The fact that Starmer says he’s proud of this catastrophic budget tells you all you need to know
     
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    well done Kemi... managed yet again to not get an answer from 2 teir "hide behind" farmer harmer in PMQ's

    he managed to yet again at least 5+ "it wasnt me or us" and claimed they are responsible for 5 interest rate drops but denies making 100's of 000's people out of work [ family people ] he is not adding to child poverty ...... mind you he he didnt answer this people out of work comment with the stock blocker of "we have generated a few jobs" this is a very negative differential " losses far exceeding the gains.......
     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Labour have nothing to offer the population unless you are lazy, reckless, cunning or stupid
    And with Reform currently leading the polls by around 10 points, all they’ve got left is to try and smear Farage, such is their jealousy and own incompetence
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    transcript of Kemi's ASSASSINATION of 2 tier and Farmer Harmer [ from the Express ]

    Kemi Badenoch tore into Cabinet disunity over the Budget, tearing apart Labour's chaos and leaving the House of Commons in stitches. Blasting Sir Keir's handling of last week's Budget, the Tory leader read out anonymous briefings from the PM's own Cabinet ministers furious at last week's antics.

    Prime Minister's Questions, she quoted: "'The handling of this Budget has been a disaster from start to finish.' Gesturing along the front bench, Ms Badenoch asked: "Who said that? Was it him? Was it her? Pointing at Ms Reeves herself, she quipped: "In fact, I think it was probably her, actually! It was probably the Chancellor!"
    The Cameras cut to Ms Reeves who appeared unable to hide a smile at the joke, as laughing Tory MPs shouted "more!"
    Ms Badenoch continued: "One of his ministers said the Chancellor and Prime Minister 'look weak and incompetent', the country agrees!"

    "We know there were endless Treasury briefings to justify raising taxes on hard-working people to pay for benefits, and those briefings had real-world consequences!
    "Hundreds of thousands of people drew down their pension - an irreversible act.
    "If the head of the OBR had to resign over market-sensitive leaks, why is the Chancellor still in her job?"

    Sir Keir repeated the claim that the Tories left Labour with a '£22 billion black hole' and that the OBR had downgraded productivity forecasts this year as a result of the Tories' handling of the economy.
    Demanding an apology from Ms Badenoch, the Tory leader laughed in his face at the suggestion.
    "No one believes a word that the Prime Minister says! We know [Rachel Reeves's] 'black hole' was fake, her book was fake, her CV was fake, even her chess claims are made up!

    "She doesn't belong in the Treasury, she belongs in la la land!"

    Ms Badenoch went on to kick Labour divisions, pointing out the Government has raised taxes on working people by £26 billion in order to appease hard-left MPs demanding higher welfare spending.

    "He now boasts about scrapping the two-child benefit cap, but he used to say it was unaffordable. He even removed the whip from 7 [MPs] for wanting the same thing.
    "He's very happy to throw them under a bus when it pleases him. So I ask the Prime Minister how did it suddenly become affordable at the exact moment he needed to save his own skin?"


    Sir Keir insisted that the vast majority of welfare recipients are in work, and 3/4 children in poverty are in working families. [ KB hinted that 75% in working families are losing jobs so it will get worse before better !]
    He claimed the Tories' two-child benefit cap dragged hundreds of thousands of children into poverty, blasting: "They should be utterly ashamed of that."
    Ms Badenoch hit back: "It's not just the head of the OBR losing his job, millions of people have been hung out to dry by their Budget.

    "Behind it all is a Prime Minister who only cares about one person's job - his own!"

    missing is the bits about various claims "down" to liebour! interest etc etc and the blames to others not "me / us "
     
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    I blame R&W, votes Labour and then bu**ers off to Gibraltar. <cheers>
     
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    I thought he voted because it was female candidate and he had a bit of a fancy........!!!!!
     
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    question time tonight ..... BBC politics show Question Time erupted into a furious row

    Labour MP Mike Tapp dodged the same easy migrant question three times. Tapp clashed with Reform UK's head of policy Zia Yusuf in the immigration special, hosted by Fiona Bruce.

    Yusuf fumed: "Let's look what the Labour government has done. Over 70,000 people have arrived in the United Kingdom illegally since Labour came to power. 50,000 in the last 12 months. That is up 40% year on year, relative to the Tory record which was already a disaster.
    "Shall we talk about those 50,000, Mike? Only a tiny fraction of those are deportations, i.e. enforced-"
    Tapp interjected: "That's why I said removals."
    Yusuf snapped back: "So will you accept, then, that over half of those 50,000 are what's known by the Home Office as other verified returns? Which means the government literally didn't even know they were leaving until after they had left!"

    Q........
    While the pair bickered, Yusuf confronted Tapp with: "Genuine question - what percentage of the people who have come here illegally, under Labour, have been deported?"

    ......Yusuf fumed: "Please answer my question. What percentage of those 70,000 have been deported?"
    "50,000 have been deported since we came to power-" Tapp tried, but Yusuf simply repeated his question once more. Tapp said: "You can do the maths-"

    Yusuf accused him of "pretending not to know", before correcting him: "The answer is 2,700 - just 4%."

    Notice the very smart sleight of hand that the immigration minister from Labour uses when he talks about 50,000 deportations and removals.

    when 2 TIER BOLDLY SHOUTS OUT at the dispatch box WE HAVE DEPORTED OVER 35,000 SINCE WE COME TO POWER Let the truth be known just 40 for every 1000 illegal .... and these figures it seems are only applicable to boat arrivals 000's rive by other means!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

    AR wins her battle against 2 tier with her workers bill ...bet that peeeeed him off
     
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    Why are the biased BBC giving air time to people who have come to this country illegally and why did one of them have an earpiece ? Was he being coached ?
    Given the show was from Dover, a seat which Reform would probably walk if there was an election tomorrow, it was a piece of work to get an audience so middle of the road
     
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    they were apparenttly "BBC" plants, there were 4 in the audience, and FB had had pre programme "coaching / chats/ etc's " with them.
    they [BBC] have been inundated with complaints regarding it ... it seems..............

    biggest shock is the lies [ expected because it is Labour policy to do that ... LIE! ] REGARDING the deportations. When you consider that last .gov already had maybe as many as 1000 .. or 500 even ready to go in last 6 month's of 2024 2700 does not seem a lot from the 70,000 since 04/07/2024 and bearing in mind there had already been 13,000 in the first 6 months of the year.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    And the BBC wonder why people no longer like or trust them ?
    Shockingly biased and blatantly defiant is exactly what they are
    But don’t worry, we can all see it for what it is
     
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    1. The Chancellor says her top priority is economic growth, then repeatedly hammers businesses with growth-destroying taxes, notably her £25billion "jobs tax".
    2. Reeves claims she wants to make it easier for young people to find jobs, then makes it more expensive for employers to hire them. The result? Employment has slumped to a 14-year low.
    3. She's now talking about finding young people jobs in pubs, while sentencing pubs to death with her latest tax blitz. It makes no sense.while sentencing pubs to death with her latest tax blitz. It makes no sense.
    4. Labour claims to be the party of working people, but Reeves makes benefits so generous that work no longer pays.
    5. Reeves says scrapping the two-child benefit cap will lift children out of poverty. In reality it means trapping more in workless households, teaching them that benefits pay better than jobs.
    6. Her own fiscal rules pledge to "make working people better off as part of the Plan for Change". Then she repeatedly taxes them to fund those who don't work.
    7. She backs "Small Business Saturday" while crushing small firms with red tape, higher wage bills and new taxes.
    8. Reeves claims to protect pensioners as the state pension rises above the personal allowance. Instead, she's giving them an incentive to blow all their savings, risking poverty in later life
    9. Reeves claims to back stability and growth while slapping new taxes on savings, investments, pensions, properties and inheritances, destroying aspiration.
    10. The cost-of-living crisis is the biggest worry voters face today. Reeves pretends she agrees, then forces through inflation-busting minimum wage hikes that are passed onto consumers as higher prices.
    11. Reeves says there's nothing "progressive" about borrowing more money, with £1 in every £10 of taxes going on debt servicing costs. Then piles on another £70billion of borrowing this Parliament.

    12. Her supposedly "iron-clad" fiscal rules require her to cut net financial debt as a share of the economy. The Office for Budget Responsibility says national debt is now set to rocket from £2.8trillion to£3.5trillion by 2031.

    13. . Labour claims it wants to help save the planet by backing electric vehicles. Then in the Budget, Reeves slaps an unworkable pay-per-mile tax on them.
    14. Plug-in hybrids are a stepping stone to EVs. Reeves will now hit them with both the new EV tax AND fuel duty, slowing the switch from petrol engines.
    15. Our Chancellor pledges to help save the high street,then hikes business rates up to five-fold crushing shops, pubs and restaurants.
    16. Organised crime is taking over with vape and barbe r shops fronts for money laundering and other illicit activities. Reeves gives them a helping hand by driving out honest businesses.
    17. The music industry is a British success story. Her business rate hike will sink it, by taxing recording studios as if they were office blocks.
    18. Labour's Employment Rights Bill is supposed to make work more secure, but thanks to Reeves firms are ramping up recruitment of temporary staff, as hiring permanent ones is now too risky.
    19. Labour wants more house building. On Reeves's watch, construction jobs are collapsing at the fastest rate in five years. Fewer homes will be built as a result.

    20. Reeves has denied her inheritance tax raid will hurt family farms. Now Labour's own analysis now confirms it will. Surprised, anyone?

    21. Reeves repeated claims to be pro-business but slaps huge inheritance tax bills on family firms. Many will be wiped out when founders die, with IHT billions running into billions.
    22. Small firms face a backlog of half a million employment tribunal claims, many of the vexatious. Instead of helping, Labour plans to scrap a cap on payouts, give troublemakers even more incentive to complain.
    23. Reeves boasts about fiscal credibility but in her Budget she backloaded £26billion of tax rises to the end of the Parliament, leaving her successor to clear up her mess.
    24. She insists her plans are "fully costed" while growth flatlines and she blames everybody else for her errors.
    25. Reeves clearly isn't up to the job, but bond markets want her to stay. Why? Because the rest of the Labour Party is even more economically illiterate than she is. That, I suppose, is how she got the job in the first place.
     
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    Rayner called the Tories ‘scum’ but it’s the Labour Party that should be called that for destroying confidence in the UK and destroying people’s aspirations for a better life earned by hard work and saving their money. They prefer to reward the feckless and lazy

    Starmers approval ratings are now below that of the former Prince Andrew
     
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    Raver and Ashton are keen Labour voters, I wonder if they think Rayner or Streeting would make a better fist of it.
    For balance on here it would be interesting to hear from them both.
     
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    probably thinking I voted Labour and the feck is this mob that got in
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><cheers>
     
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