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  1. rooch 3

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    senior citizens who died from the cold

    4950 excess winter deaths caused by cold homes last winter

    17th Jan 2024 — Previous End Fuel Poverty Coalition estimates put the figure at 4,706 Excess Winter Deaths caused by cold homes.
    Children who died of malnutrition

    There is no official data for the number of children who died of starvation in England last year
    , as "starvation" is not a common registered cause of death. However, in 2022, there were 77 deaths involving malnutrition as the underlying cause in England and Wales,
    Crack on freezing the pensioners, you seem to enjoy it<ok>
    Put me on ignore if you don’t like reading what sort of person you really are.
     
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    Your last paragraph - you were and you did.
     
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    We need to be careful how we use the data on pensioners freezing to death. My mother-in-law doesn't put her central heating on in her house she owns, and has savings.
     
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    You can only go by the data supplied, or do you have data for the ones who don’t switch their heating on?
    The data for children dying was before they got the new benefits.
    The data for senior citizens was before they got their heating allowance cut.
     
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    My mates mother died recently at 86 (not from the cold). She owned her house got state pension, 2/3 of her late husbands pit pension, attendance allowance, winter fuel allowance and a NCB fuel allowance in lieu of coal allowance. She would not put her heating on and sat with a coat and hat on indoors because "heating is expensive". She left £700k to her two sons when she died.
     
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    I wonder where the flu peak was at that period of time? Deaths usually go up for the elderly in January/February.
     
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    Sad state of affairs which emphasises my point. It doesn't matter how much we tell them. They become stubborn in old age and want to leave as much money as possible to their kids.
     
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    I don't like it and have been ignoring it.

    Women get comments like that all the time. Look at all the hoo-ha about Theresa May's shoes. I can't recall reading anything about male politicians shoes.
     
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    I don't see the relevance of those figures, they're from the winter of 22/23. What am I missing?
     
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    I don't know if it's misogynistic but it's definitely demeaning and belittling.
     
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  13. Pure River Slut

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    Profits from unscrupulous energy suppliers who operate a high profit model are the issue we should be looking at. Focusing on different energy models is the right thing to do, but they should tax wealth to get the money so our nation owns it, not like in many cases, have the Saudis fronting the money for a profit from our wind and sun.
     
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    The child benefit issue is actually that. We need to be careful not to fall for Badenochs lies and make kids in poverty the enemy. Badenoch plans to run a nationwide campaign from here to the next election about what she calls ‘Benefits Street' - telling hard pressed working families that their taxes are paying for 'welfare scroungers' to 'game' the social security system.
    In truth, 60 per cent of children affected by the rule have a parent in work. Another 15 per cent are under three and in single parent families where all too often the children are too young - or child care is too expensive - for the mother to work.So this isn’t just lazy scroungers, it’s been thought through.
    If any of the rest were to claim incapacity benefit, they lose £50 a week from April. If they are unemployed and qualify for help they face a benefit cap which limits total benefits, no matter how many children you have, to £423 a week including rent. Not the £40,000 a year the Tories claim.
    The budget needed to take excess wealth in tax for me, not from struggling middle earners with a higher cost of living, but the benefit changes is one of the good bits, despite the narrative. It helps work to be in reach rather than out of work benefits while also helping young people eat. There are increasing numbers of hungry kids.
     
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    How do the Tories come up with the £40,000 - do you know?
     
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    Not got a clue
     
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    Clive Lewis a regular critic of the current Labour leadership
     
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