So I did speak to them and was quite interesting. They were surprised to hear Downs was struggling as they thought he was a real prospect, albeit playing in the Bundesliga 2. They thought it was odd he left when he did as he would’ve played a fair bit for Koln in the Bundesliga this year, rather than join a Champ side. They think he has the talent so maybe just not clicked yet for whatever reason. I also asked about Scienza and none of them thought he was that good. Said he stood out in a poor team, but thought lower Bundesliga was about his level. When I said how well he was doing they did say, for both Downs and Scienza, they are talking about their time in Germany where Scienza was playing a higher level than he is now and Downs was more settled possibly at the club he had been at his whole career. If they are right it doesn’t bode well for Scienza making the step up to the PL but we can worry about that if it happens. I did think the summary was they basically said Downs is good and Scienza isn’t, which is obviously the complete opposite of what we’ve seen so far, so maybe they don’t know what they are on about
