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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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  1. Christophalophados

    Christophalophados Well-Known Member

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    Depends if any of their advice was actually taken on board, or just ignored by the Government
     
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    I find it hard to believe that Boris had anything to do with the hoops (and loopholes) I had to jump through to get into and out of the country.
     
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  3. Gone For A Walk

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    ...but then he went the other way? Unnecessary further lockdowns that could never stop the spread. Listening this aft to the debates on radio, one key point I've heard is that the country had an emergency plan in place for such scenarios ....but didn't use it! The plan included that full lockdowns are pointless for such viruses (shield, protect the most vulnerable instead). The initial lockdown, which was too late, was understandable, simply to buy time to figure things out, but beyond that, gross incompetence and corruption.
     
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    God forbid it happened again today eh!!... letting people in unchecked from goodness knows where...
     
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  5. Drew

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    Small boat crossings for 2022 were higher than this year so far so we were!
     
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  6. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    I’m astonished that you’re astonished at the lax checks through our incoming airports. For as long as I can remember the incoming checks at airports in this country have always been lax.
     
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    I've always thought that too. I concluded that customs people, (probably under-staffed, underpaid, etc, etc), had learnt to recognise the low hanging fruit and focused on those.
     
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    Chesh1recat Well-Known Member

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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Can you summarise
    Cheers
     
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  11. Anal Frank Fingers

    Anal Frank Fingers Well-Known Member

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    Not any idea what he says or veracity of his comments, but AI has this to say:
     
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  12. Chesh1recat

    Chesh1recat Well-Known Member

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    You could just watch it on the bog like everyone else!
    Anyway:
    Macro-data during the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom (UK) are shown to have significant data anomalies and inconsistencies with existing
    explanations.
    This paper shows that the UK spike in deaths,
    wrongly attributed to COVID-19 in April 2020,
    was not due to SARS-CoV-2 virus, which was
    largely absent,
    but was due to the widespread use of Midazolam
    injections,
    which were statistically very highly correlated(coefficient over 90%) with excess deaths in all regions of England during 2020.
    Importantly, excess deaths remained elevated
    following mass vaccination in 2021,
    but were statistically uncorrelated to COVID
    injections, while remaining significantly correlated
    to Midazolam injections.
    ×
     
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  13. jhe10

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    From fullfact.org, a politically neutral fact checking nonprofit ...
    A video on YouTube with tens of thousands of views makes several claims about the rise in the use of the drug midazolam during the Covid-19 pandemic, including that a 2020 spike in deaths was caused by “lethal midazolam and morphine injections”.
    We can find no evidence to support this. Midazolam is often used to make patients comfortable at the ends of their lives, including those who are dying of Covid-19. A spike in midazolam prescriptions during one of the worst months of the pandemic is therefore not unexpected.
    While it is possible that midazolam could have been used incorrectly and caused death in some cases, the evidence we have certainly does not show that the drug was used to kill thousands of people.​
     
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  14. Chesh1recat

    Chesh1recat Well-Known Member

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    I think John Campbell is politically neutral or at least I've not heard him express any political opinion (though I'm not an avid viewer) and hasn't intimated intent. He's cited a report of a study showing a correlation of drug adminstration and deaths. Have you watched the video - you can't see how these statistics overlap?
    As for Full fact being independent - have you seen who funds it?
     
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    I did ask Graham Stuart why the government had ignored its own pandemic policy (which if memory serves was what Boris Johnson had started to implement) in favour of the WHO’s world lockdown policy. No reply was forthcoming.
     
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  16. Anal Frank Fingers

    Anal Frank Fingers Well-Known Member

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    Do me a favour. Watch this one also, then critically provide me a summary of which point of view(s) are correct.



    I'd do it but I have zero interest.
     
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  17. Chesh1recat

    Chesh1recat Well-Known Member

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    Zero interest, yeah right! Well, as I'm at work I've only been able watch few minutes, but in those few minutes, he quite clearly stated 'not my words', then proceeds to begin to explain why the author of the study draws the conclusion. But you don't care because you have no interest.
     
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  18. jhe10

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    It's hardly worth arguing with conspiracy theorists as they won't change their mind, but here goes. Of course there's a correlation between Midazolam prescriptions and Covid deaths. You could find the same correlation with deaths of old age in care homes. The reason is that Midazolam is one of the drugs admininstered to people in the last hours of their life, to make an inevitable death less painful and frightening for the patient. Which your Youtube nurse almost certainly knows but I imagine he doesn't mention that.
     
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  19. Drew

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    Which of these do you object to?
    https://fullfact.org/about/funding/
     
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  20. Chesh1recat

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