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Election 2024

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Jan 18, 2024.

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

  1. Give Keir a dinghy

    35.0%
  2. The Afghans are coming

    20.0%
  3. Duggie wants his winter fuel payment back

    25.0%
  4. BobbyD to take over

    40.0%
  5. Tax, tax, tax and more ****ing tax coming

    15.0%
  6. We want Farage...

    10.0%
  7. Stop the triple lock

    25.0%
  8. Leave my pension alone

    25.0%
  9. brb is **** at polls

    40.0%
  10. Sucky is an Afghan

    60.0%
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  1. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    there is no child benefit cap it is the 2 child benefit cap which helpfully has **** all to do with CHB
     
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  2. BobbyD

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    i know theres the the benefit for you get for having kids which is not that much.

    but yea talking about the cap on benefits for having more than 2 children

    Looking forward to funding the kids of people who can't afford them. Benefits for all
     
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    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Can only speak from my own experience... but we settled on 2 kids (eldest daughter was with ex-wife) partly because of finances ... even with both of us working ... would have loved more kids but we couldn't realistically afford it ... in essence we had to balance our 'income' against the expenses of household and raising our kids through to adulthood...

    Certainly doesn't feel 'fair' that some families can ignore their actual income in such economics ... because they will get additional funds from the government for every child they cough out ...

    Just my view of course, but for me limiting our offspring to what we could / can afford.. just seems part and parcel of responsible parenting ...
     
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    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Listening to Politics Live where, presumably, a Labour politician is pontificating that 'this is about the children' in relation to the lifting of the 2 child cap ...

    What bollocks - it's more about the parents - have as many kids as you like, no problem - provided you are not looking to the state (the taxpayer) to finance their upbringing ...
     
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  5. brb

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    Must be honest mate, I thought it was the child benefit allowance, I'm assuming now it's not?
     
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    no it's to do with means tested benefits

    The policy, introduced by Conservative chancellor George Osborne, means parents can only claim universal credit or tax credits for their first two children.

    It appliesto third or subsequent children born after 6 April 2017.
     
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    thought you cared about kids ?
     
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    While I agree absolutely with your rational here, my thinking is but it's the child that suffers, a child that didn't ask to be brought into this world, a child that is not to blame for the ways of its parents...a child that if taken into care would cost the state far more money than any benefit.

    Taking all of the above in mind, so what do we do then, when the child is not getting fed properly, prosecute the parents, could do but that will also cost the state again. We know parents are using foodbanks, something that never existed when I was young, you just went hungry.

    I'm open to all thinking on this topic, but sometimes words on the internet are easier than reality. I suppose the underlying thing here is setting standards in life, absolutely along the lines you have stated, I think this is where free school meals come in, it was my life saver as a kid.

    Also with the size of foodbanks now and their regularity of use, what research has been done into these environments, to establish why people are there, because unless we have the correct data, we can't fix it. It feels to me and maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like they've been normalised, how can that happen in a caring society.

    Lots in there and I wouldn't even know where to begin to resolve the problems, but I feel like all of us we are qualified on life experiences, but until we rid ourselves of whatever is deemed child povery, then we can only all down our heads in shame.
     
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