Nigel Farage in a nutshell

If I knew what that meant I would agree or disagree.

 

It's known in mythology as 'to open Pandora's box', meaning to start something, with the noblest intentions or good faith, that will cause many unforeseen problems.

You might otherwise refer to it as ' opening a can of worms'.

That's what we did when we went around the world robbing the inhabitants, forcing them to obey our rules and imposing English.

As with slavery it was a tiny percentage, of the hugely wealthy, who embarked on this and reaped the benefits just as they do now.

The working man barely benefitted from slavery yet we're all paying a hefty price now. Workers in the cotton mills, the mines and the factories were little better off than the slaves. The toffs poked their fat greedy noses into every nation's business and decided which tribes and countries to support or crush. They used poorly paid British soldiers to carry out their work and buried them wherever they fell.

We opened Pandora's box and the plague is starting to reach us now ...

... there's no stopping it, read the fable and you'll see just how frightening and unstoppable it is.

 

Well 1 I don’t believe in Pandora’s box anymore than you believe in jinxes,
I do think it is probably unstoppable though although it can be slowed down.

 

It's mythology ffs

'Pandora's box is a metaphor for something that brings about great troubles or misfortune.'

 

That’s why I don’t believe it ffs

 

I get the point, but how far back do we go to blame the sins of the fathers. Britain itself has been the subject of invasion numerous times, Romans, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Vikings and Normans.

I hope at some point history is a thing we can learn from. Seems unlikely to be honest as I sit and watch the world go by. We are becoming less human by the year it seems to me.

 

We don't have to go back too far mate, we've only just given back some places, still have Gibraltar, the Falklands, etc.

In any case my point is that it's always been the Eton educated, landed gentry and landowners who've been involved ... just as they are now.

 

Yeah mate, I know. India only the 60s ffs. I get why some remember us a bloody tyrant.

I suppose I just wish people would stop repeating these cycles. It shouldnt be that bloody difficult to respect each other and get along, without cultures being forgotten.

 

It's too late, we're reaping the whirlwind.

We massacared entire nations, shifted thousands from their homes and pillaged their wealth.

We taught them that they must worship the crown because England was the best place on Earth.

We insisted they should learn English, work for the English and speak English ...

... now we're wondering why they choose to come to England.

It's finished, we'll never turn back the tide and this country will become like the places we invaded.

 

Farage racism timeline
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/24/nigel-farages-shifting-answers-on-school-days-racism-claims-a-timeline
People still on his side ?

 

Interesting hearing England fans talking about violent men in other countries

 

Here is some policies you keep asking for.


The state must serve the British people first

By Zia Yusuf REFORM UK’s Head of Policy

“Tough decisions must be made” has become the refrain of a political class that insists British people tighten their belts, again and again, while they continue writing blank cheques to the rest of the world.

Whether it was the Tories before, or Labour today, the script never changes: taxes go up, services get worse. What they never admit is that the only people ever asked to sacrifice are the British people themselves, while the state funnels ever larger sums to foreign nationals.

Britain has been turned into a global food bank, funded by taxpayers who can barely keep up with their own mortgages and energy bills. It is immoral, economically illiterate and politically indefensible.

And it must end.

Below is a summary how REFORM would cut public spending. More details can be found below:

1. End Universal Credit for foreign nationals – saving £6bn
2. Raise the Immigration Health Surcharge – raising £5bn
3. Personal Independence Payment reform – saving £3.5bn
4. Cap foreign aid at £1bn – saving £10bn
5. Deport foreign national offenders – saving £580m

Reform UK has published a set of proposals that do something novel in Westminster: put British citizens first. If Rachel Reeves adopted these measures tomorrow, she could save or raise £25bn this year alone, enough to plug the fiscal black hole without hammering working families with yet more tax rises.

Here is how:
1. End Universal Credit for foreign nationals – saving £6bn.
The Government hides most of the data on how much welfare is spent on non-UK citizens. The exception is Universal Credit: foreign nationals receive around £8bn a year in UC alone.
Even allowing for a reasonable three-month transition period, this would save £6bn this year.

This includes those with EU settled status. And it must include them, because the system we inherited from Theresa May and Boris Johnson is ludicrously asymmetric. In 2015, there were around four times as many EU citizens claiming benefits in the UK as Brits claiming in the entire EU. Since then, the number of EU claimants here has risen sevenfold.

Prime Minister Nigel Farage will renegotiate these one-sided arrangements.

2. Raise the Immigration Health Surcharge – raising £5bn.
The population has grown by 10 per cent since 2010, almost entirely through immigration, while NHS spending has nearly doubled in real terms, from around £110bn to £205bn. And yet NHS bed capacity has fallen. That alone tells you the system is being overwhelmed.

The Immigration Health Surcharge (IHS) is supposed to offset the cost of treating visa holders. But Tory ministers deliberately set it far below the real cost. The standard charge today is £1,035, a number so absurdly low that the Government admits it represents just 38 percent of actual per-capita NHS expenditure. It was Robert Jenrick as immigration minister who signed off an effective 62 per cent taxpayer-funded discount for foreign nationals to use the NHS.
Reform will raise the IHS to the Government’s own calculated cost of £2,718 a year and end the maze of exemptions that allow thousands of migrants to avoid paying entirely.
Based on Labour’s migration forecasts, this raises £5bn this year.

3. Pip reform – saving £3.5bn
Reform will focus Personal Independence Payment on serious, life-impacting disabilities, not mild anxiety issues. Shifting these claimants on to back-to-work programmes will save between £32 bn and £37bn over five years, and £3.5bn this year alone.
By 2029/30, annual savings reach £8.9bn.

4. Cap foreign aid at £1bn – saving £10bn
Charity begins at home. It is indefensible that while British children go without dental appointments and pensioners cannot get GP slots, the UK funds a £52m “road to nowhere” in Guyana.
While Labour resisted a national inquiry into grooming gangs, Britain wired £19m to Pakistan for child exploitation prevention programmes.

The Tories sent Pakistan more than £100m for “family planning”.
We even send millions to Turkey, whose teenagers now outperform Welsh 15-year-olds in basic education.

Reform will cap foreign aid at £1bn, enough to meet our core UN obligations, support Ukraine, provide emergency relief and promote British interests abroad. Everything else is an unaffordable luxury. This alone saves £10bn this year.

5. Deport foreign national offenders – saving £580m
Britain’s prisons are full. Labour and the Tories want to release offenders early. Reform says deport foreign nationals from our prisons.

Foreign nationals make up around 12 per cent of the prison population, 10,800 inmates, and cost £643m a year. Under Operation Restoring Justice, they would be prioritised for deportation or transfer to their home countries.

Net of costs, this saves £580m a year.

We are a generous country but we are not a limitless one. Reform’s proposals restore a principle that Westminster abandoned years ago: the British state exists to serve the British people.

If Rachel Reeves wants to avoid hammering working families with yet more taxes, the solution is sitting right in front of her.
The only question is whether she will finally put British citizens first.
That’s precisely what prime minister Farage will do.

Family, Community, Country.

Vote REFORM at every opportunity.

What do you think?

 

Looks like he has been a racist twat all his life

Farage says he's 'never directly racially abused anybody' after school racism claims https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87lx0981nro

 

I think it’s nonsensical bullshit (Poundland Trumpesque) with Farage’s non dom backers wanting to dismantle the nhs for their own self interest. Sadly many working class people will be voting against their best interests thanks to the money these wealthy individuals can throw at Reforms publicity.

Reforms Russian money is obviously directing their Ukraine policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yd878ejqko.amp

We all want robust immigration but not built on racism and by a bloke, thanks to Brexit, is largely responsible for record immigration.

Farage says he's 'never directly racially abused anybody' after school racism claims https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87lx0981nro

 

This is what we’ll get more of under Reform. Lies to deliver far right ideology based on xenophobia, that makes us all poorer
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRdX7gvju72/?igsh=MXF1eHE5Z3NtaHAybg==

 

I’m tempted just to piss you off

 

Dog Whistle Politis of the highest order.

Sadly (thanks to Reforms dodgy backers), as this thread proves some are very easily led.

 

So they are telling lies?
Tell me who to vote for who are telling the truth.

 

Don’t worry about me I can afford private medical care.

It’s those on low income I worry about who can’t.

 

Well not voting for a proven racist liar would be a start