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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Beef, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    South Korea 2002 says hi.
     
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  2. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Nope. You have no evidence. No corruption at FIFA. Move along. Nothing to see here!
     
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  3. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I didn't notice at the time (was only 11) but remember you mentioning it years ago on here and so watched it and was shocked at how blatant it was.
     
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    Nothing was ever proved.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Equally we could get Iran, Scotland and Curacao in our group.

    There might be one or two decent groups but they'll undoubtedly be massively weaker as a whole.

    Didn't we put 6 past Iran in the last one? And now they're a pot two team, it's absurd.

    Uzbekistan and Panana as pot 3 is equally as bad.
     
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    This is the guy who refereed the game:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Moreno

    An international cocaine smuggler. <laugh>

    But yeah, no evidence of course.
     
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  7. Libby

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    FIFA are hardly going to admit it are they? There's plenty of evidence they benefited from an extremely high amount of poor decisions across more than one match.
     
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    I have not said there has been no corruption at FIFA. But that's off the pitch (Qatar being awarded the World Cup was clearly corrupt for example). But I loathe it that whenever a referee has a shocking game everyone says it must be corruption when there's no evidence of that at all.
     
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    It's obviously not that in the vast majority of cases but then you're going the other way and saying it never happens.

    I'd put the chance of there being corruption in South Korea's favour being at least 95%.
     
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    What evidence exactly do you expect to see? A hand-written confession?
     
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    Yes, 8 years later. Completely irrelevant to what happened in 2002.
     
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    He was investigated and cleared. If it was that obvious he would have been charged and banned froim refereeing.
     
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    Thing is Tom I think you look at it from the angle of you wouldn't do it as a ref so nobody else would either and that's a hugely flawed assumption.

    You wouldn't take cocaine while reffing a high profile tournament and slag a manager off on camera either.
     
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    Investigated by whom? FIFA?
     
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  17. Libby

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    Investigated by FIFA themselves, no vested interest there of course and they've proven themselves to be such a reputable organisation.

    It also wasn't just the Italy match. The Spain one was just as bad if not worse.
     
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    Maybe something that suggested he was corrupt rather than incompetent. Nothing at the time linked him to corruption or illegal activities.
     
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    He was incompetent. The fact he was miles way when he made a lot of the calls in the Italy game suggests he was just a terrible referee.
     
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    Yeah it's just coincidence that there were two separate refs in two separate matches who were both equally terrible, and the vast majority of poor decisions benefited the same team in both.
     
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