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Nigel Farage in a nutshell

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  1. Pure River Slut

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    It isnt cutting services, it is making it paid for by those who can afford to do so, and thus freeing up more money for those who cant. Means testing brings equity in a way taxes dont.
     
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    Also not fixing health is bad for the economy. I agree within a certain threshold but it would need to be a high threshold.
     
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    You don’t need to cut services, just make them move efficient, as I said on the starmer thread about the changing light bulbs get rid of the many pen pushers that job aren't required just jobs for the boys. You just need the people DOING the actual front line job.
     
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    there are a lot of consultants choking the money from reaching and supporting the front line. It needs to change pronto so that can improve. I also agree on the means testing- lots more folk can pay for their services and should, including me - I do anyway. But also, tax the super wealthy a bit more.
     
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    It’s good to be efficient and there’s some proper weird jobs but you do also need organisers. Organisers are part of doing the job. We have made the world ridiculously complicated through pointless levels of privatisation and competition mind. Cost savings often cost more to administer than the saving itself.
     
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    The government cutting a lot of the NHS admin and Police Crime Commissioners seems to be a sign that they agree.
     
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    Yes prob 50% of CS office jobs are required to do tasks just seem to be a lot more than needed.
     
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    Who is policing it though, you need outside check to make sure the non jobs are the ones being cut or you get another form of austerity with plenty of the pet project jobs hidden away.
     
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    The government saying they are going to cut the jobs is slightly different to what you’ve said<ok>
     
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    Sorry I don’t understand
     
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    I don’t believe they have started cutting anyone yet and I don’t think they will.
     
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    They’re working through it now. Natural wastage currently in the nhs I believe while they work out how to organise the 10 year plan.
    The PCC wil take 2 years but staff have been informed. One of our work team had a PCC on the way to chair a partnership meeting the other day and he got off the train and went back after he received a call. Knew nowt before that point.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93d4dd3l3lo.amp

    https://www.nhsconfed.org/publications/abolishing-nhs-england-what-you-need-know
     
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    What worries me is who makes up the natural wastage,
    If I was a nurse or doctor and got offered a way out, I would be first in the queue.
    I just done see the ones we need to leave will be the ones that leave, especially when it’s down to MPs<ok>
     
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