Mags embarrassing themselves yet again

Let's be honest here, if they are given permission to build there then questions will be asked and heads will roll.
Or is that the other way round ????

 

That might work

 

I hope it doesn't sound patronising, when I say , very well put.

What we have is the 'downside of Sportswashing'.

Were the owners to try to go ahead, agaist the wishes of a majority of the local population and pressure groups, imagine how this would look.
BIG, Rich Saudi Arabia tries to beat up a small town in the North of England.

If we go back to our problems when trying to settle on a new location, you may recall that one suggestion was a shared Super Stadium, with N/C next to the A19.
Good theory, bad practice as would be the idea of sharing The Sol for a Season, while SJP was knocked down and re-built.
Middlesborough could be an option, but a poor one, otherwise they're looking North .
Would Glasgow or Edinburg wand to welcome them on a regular basis.?

Much as they might WANT a City Centre Site, it sounds like a pipedream to me.
An Engineers dream might be to close one sid/end a year and rebuild on site over a four year period.
A very expensive option, but hey, they ARE the Richest Club In The World.

 

Tottingham done it but didn’t have listed buildings to contend with. As far as I know.

 

Cracking post but the cathedral is long gone, Mosque on the mount these days

 

No listed buildings are spuds ground, which is a bit of a ****hole, to be fair.

 

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You, polyphemus and others raise a very interesting question that hasn't really occurred to me before ...

... but there's quite a moral and ethical conundrum for the brain dead of Newcastle to deal with.

During the next round of violent disorder, around immigrants, etc, how will the Mag protesters square it if there's a rape/murder by a Newcastle based Islamic immigrant? Would they attack the Mosque, or hostel, housing this dangerous criminal or turn a blind eye in case it offended their lord and masters.

Perhaps the Tyneside MPs, who support the club, would be able to enlighten us.

 

Aye good question, mind I’m embarrassed at the racist and pro reform rhetoric connected to Sunderland, given our non English lads but I think that’s for another thread.

 

That's part of the conundrum that sprang to mind.

Why was there more rioting in Sunderland ...

... and was it due to the Newcastle supporters being conflicted?

I'd guess they value trophies above their principles ... we've had plenty of evidence to support that theory tbh.

 

According to my late dad, the mags regularly talked about leaving Sid James' in the 50s and 60s, generally as a way of persuading the council to agree something to do work on the ground. One was to move to a new stadium built with Newcastle University. None of it came to pass because they got what they wanted. Now, though, planning laws and preservation laws are much more strict and as you say people pour over forums and social media watching for "inappropriate" behaviour.

 

For the last time lads, it's not ‘a crumbling old rented ground on a slight gradient’, nor is it the 'Mosque on the mount'. It's the 'Lopsided carbuncle on a slight incline in the road' as I copyrighted it about 5 years ago.

 

I prefer **** tip but not opposed to any of them

 

In fact, have another

 

If you insist

 

Football Fans can be a touch contrary.
For example, our friends to The North, after welcoming Mike Ashley at first, turned on him as if he were The Devil Incarnate.
But while Chairman though he refused to just throw money at the Club, he kept his first Team Squad's in place to make sure of instant returns.
Few Clubs have ever been so lucky.

But the Hall and Shephard Families made money from the Club even through for most years it was trading at a loss. A combimation of Directors Fees and Divdends.
A milk cow that delivered cream,
Even after Shephard and young Hall got caught talking to a NotW Reporter while waiting in a Spanish Brothel, when it was explained to this undercocer Reprter just how they ripped off their Fans for the replica Shirts, and described the laddies of N/C as DOGS, it made no difference,
Shephard in particular never lost his poularity

I like to remind these 'Fans' that The SSoL cost around £17mil to build.
The renovation of ST James was reported to have cost over £60 mil.
Then I ask which club had a Bulder as Chairman, and which had an Accountant.
( reno·vate
restore (something old, especially a building) to a good state of repair

 

Great post. All I would add Sir Bob was an accountant but made his money on home furnishings and Shepherd in scrap. Look at the two stadiums and it reflects that.

Hopefully when the SOL is fully extended in the not to distant future, with Sir Bobs foresight, with the South and East Stand extentions it will look a truly fantastic stadium

 

Excuse my ignorance on this matter, but I hear the phrase “Freeman” spoken numerous times, can the educated ones please explain what this means in layman’s terms

 

If they did build a new stadium in Gateshead, when they tried to take the piss out of us for not having an airport, would love to see their faces if someone had a go back and told them that they didn't have a football ground in their city

 

and change the name of the franchise to the London Magpies. There would massive waiting lists for cockney lessons. Especially from the Durham Cockney tw*ts

 

Yes mate, I'll tell you what I know although I'm sure other people are better informed.

I have lovely family and friends, in the Chopwell, Derwent Valley, area who have been connected to NUFC and the council for years.

We've had 60 years of Sunderland/Newcastle banter and shared stories, gossip and information.

I probably know more about the internal affairs of Newcastle, including the McKeag family, through Shepherd, Hall, Ashley, etc, than I do about Sunderland. In essence there's an ancient body of people called 'The Freemen of the City' who are a hereditary body that acts as guardians of the Newcastle Town Moor, SJP and other sites that can't be bought or owned by any outsiders.

They own the land that the stadium of SJP occupies and is paid as a peppercorn rent, i.e. virtually free.

The club own the stadium, but not the land, and would have to return that land to the Freeman in the state they found it.

In other words they're f****d