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Off Topic Starmer/ Reeves: last man standing

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Blond Bombshell, Sep 12, 2025.

  1. Hamish 1973

    Hamish 1973 Well-Known Member

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    Labour are in self destruction mode
     
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  2. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    I believe it's down to their poor standings in the polls. Starmer needs to deliver something in the next year.
     
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  3. Hamish 1973

    Hamish 1973 Well-Known Member

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    The budget and the local elections next May won't help his cause.
     
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  4. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    To quote a line from Shawshank Redemption "He's a dead man walking".
     
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  6. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Police and crime commissioners are to be scrapped in England and Wales to save £100m over this parliament, the government has said.

    BBC News - Police and crime commissioners to be scrapped in England and Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93d4dd3l3lo
     
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  7. FellTop

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    I think the time has come for a serious conversation abou the size of the state.

    Take welfare. Is the NHS really suitable in its current form. I would like a serious assessment into whether something like the Dutch model is more appropriate. It still provides access for all, but is means tested. Savings could be significant.

    Then as others have said - quangos. I suspect 25% could be shut and we wouldnt notice.

    It is a terrible mess. I have shared stories about the state of primary school funding. It is heartbreaking.

    Politicians of all colours need to accept the need we have and committ to policies that will give out kids and grandkids a chance not me and you mate. We have had our time.
     
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  8. LBW

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    Huge saving to be made by abolishing the House of Lords under its current form, another false promise by Starmer
     
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  9. Blond Bombshell

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    Where did he say that?
     
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  10. LBW

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    Tom Edgington & Jennifer Clarke
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    A law to reform the House of Lords is being introduced by the Labour government.

    The bill will remove the remaining 92 hereditary peers, whose presence in the Lords is described as "outdated and indefensible".

    Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer previously pledged to abolish the parliamentary chamber in its present form altogether

    The man is a fraud Blondie, no different to Boris but even Boris couldnt go back on his words as many times as Starmer.
     
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  11. Daz

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    That is still ongoing, it may still happen.

    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10219/

    It's being discussed by a cross-party committee but for some reason they won't be reporting back until sometime in 2026...which is ridiculous. It's likely some of the Lords who would lose their position may be holding things up mind. I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
     
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  12. samwise_new

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    i always admit to having little interest in politics, apart from having a vote there is really feck all i can do to change things and as i have grown older i find even that single vote means nothing but i have noticed a lot of things changing.

    i mean, we used to be able to afford the NHS along with a fully manned set of forces (police, military, fire etc) yet all have been stripped down, supposedly to save 'millions' yet every new election brings the same tales of woe.

    we used to have time served people promoted up 'the ranks' and they knew everything about the job yet now we see these graduates getting such jobs who then need to hire a couple of people under them to actually run the job, as this continues we find them at the top, but then they need more to help them such as the 'lowly' secretary (you know her, she is the only one who knows what is going on and when), we see an increasing amount taking on a business then have to hire others on minimum wage to keep the job going while they claim a 6 figure salary for doing nothing.

    would it be so hard to just 'rewind' and do whatever we did 40 or 50 years ago when things just simply ran properly and were ran by those who knew the job...or have i missed far too much out?
     
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  13. rowley

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    Well at least Starmer got the benefit of one after his beer and curry party in Durham during lockdown!

    But as always, we'll see.
     
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    Funny you should say that I was thinking exactly the same thing only a few days ago.
    Unbelievable the s hite we have to put up these days. What do you do? Haven’t got a clue.
    I know what I would do but I couldn’t repeat it <laugh>
     
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  15. rowley

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    You last paragraph poses the right question.

    But bureaucracies have their own life. They often attract people who are singularly useless for any real work . The money they "earn" is usually way ahead of anything they could hope to attract in a competitive, commercial world.

    So, their job is to keep their job. The best way to do that is to appoint people under you, and when they can, they will do the same.

    In very short form, that is the plague which infests every institution in the country. And when any cuts are made, which is very rare, these people make absolutely sure that the effect is the most public, the most eye catching, the most sympathy gathering.

    Never their superannuated lifestyles and gold plated pensions.
     
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  16. samwise_new

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    that line in bold is exactly what i usually rave about, people getting paid far more than they are ever worth for doing feck all...yet people seem to idolise them, in my mind they are the biggest problem in life these days.

    i was brought (dragged?) up with the idea that if you wanted something then A) you worked for the money and B) you saved up till you could afford it...not a great principal but it worked and both have dropped from society along with common sense.
     
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