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Match Day Thread Manchester City V Liverpool

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  1. Zanjinho

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    Oh, and calling the ref over to review a decision needs to stop. They only call them to look at the screen if they feel a mistake as been made. The referee almost always goes with VAR; why wouldn't he? The VAR team clearly think he's made a mistake, hence calling him to take a look. What's the point?

    To me this is nothing more than as humiliation process. Its like being at school and everyone gathering round to chant "you ****ed up, you ****ed up" at the ref. Just changed the decision FFS (if it's clear and obvious)
     
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    i've seen more than one where the ref clearly thought the decision was right but still ended up reversing his decision though one was funny as it was so obvious the ref wanted to stick with original decision .
     
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    I remember Marriner when it first came in being asked to go to the screen to review a penalty decision against us at Fulham (or maybe Brighton). He reviewed it and stuck to his original decision of a corner. Can't remember another one, and that's what I find disappointing, and was at the centre of that Bothyrod question to Gallagher that I referred to on Monday: there is an inference that you cannot ask the ref to review a decision unless you are 100% clear that the on-field officials ahve got it wrong, and if they stick to their decision it means that you on VAR are an idiot who is just holding up the game. That's not how it works in rugby.
     
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    seen a couple who have stuck by their decision but it is incredibly rare .
    The clear and obvious stuff is just bollox or else it wouldn't take sooooooooo long
     
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    When they claim that's how they work, yes, it's bollox.

    However, that's how it SHOULD work. They're just not doing it
     
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    But therein lies the problem. As Solid pointed out, we can't agree amongst ourselves half the time and we all want the same thing. Expecting these things is a forlorn hope, as people are all different. So long as anything is open to interpretation it will be interpreted differently, not only by different people but sometimes by the same person at different times - such is the quirkiness of human nature.
    We have to get used to it because it'll never change.
     
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    This annoys me far more than incorrect decisions. The tortuous logic employed to deny a mistake.
     
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    Happy to be of assistance <laugh>
     
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    This is the bit that boils my piss, especially when it concerns Oliver yet again.
     
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    I was reading a Liverpool fan website recently and one of the contributors said that for all those who say it sucks the joy out of celebrating a goal, if you look at it another way, those goals that go to VAR and are upheld, means you get to celebrate twice.

    A different take from all the ones I've already heard.
     
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    Absolutely spot on regarding Oliver. He's the Emperor's New Clothes of refereeing, and the media outlets are very much to blame for this preposterous myth that had developed around him, especially in his early career, that he was some sort of young, shining talent in the game. He wasn't then, he isn't now, and he'll never be such.

    But, as Goldbridge accurately identifies, it's his arrogance and certainty that make him stand out in a sea of mediocrity in the PGMOL: he's no better (even worse) than everyone else, but somehow there's a cult that has fallen for his unjustified self-belief, and that includes swathes of the media, and even ex-players and pundits themselves.

    Complete charlatan of a man - the Gilderoy Lockhart of British football.
     
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    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdKWeX13/

    Goldbridge calls for PGMOL personnel to be sacked. Totally agree with him.

    IMO, former players should be employed to run the game; I'm not talking about refereeing matches, I'm talking about implementing the rules and overseeing the officiating. Stop sllowing referees (people that have never played the game, probably failed to make the grade at school level) literally ALL the power in what it a multi-billion pound sporting industry!
     
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    No Active referees should be used in VAR either retired ones or people trained just for VAR.
    That way you don't get the worry of criticising someone who might be judging your decisions next week.
     
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    I wouldn't even used retired ones; they all stick together in some sort of referees union
     
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