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Match Day Thread Manchester City V Liverpool

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Nov 5, 2025 at 6:21 PM.

  1. Gerrardsitchyear

    Gerrardsitchyear Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it's not the system (especially since the Villa game). We've gone back to the title winning system and it was enough to beat Villa and Real.

    The players have been poor.
     
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    yeah it's painful to watch him this season but can't see him being dropped . Defo shouldn't be playing 3 games in a week .
     
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  3. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    Players are in offside positions all the time, but not offside. The rule literally is about affecting play, and by all standards and precedents, Robbo just simply wasn't. Even that ****weasel Gallager couldn't deny that yesterday, but instead focused his whole argument upon subjective decisions and on-field calls, and in essence said VAR is only there for objective calls. But to follow your assertion to its logical conclusion, if an attacker pulls the ball back from the byline on the corner of the 6-yard box to a teammate on the penalty spot who slots it past the goalie, the only defender in that half, then technically, the player now standing in the six-yard box is offside. Think about it.
     
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  4. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    VAR as a system is designed to help get the right decisions in the areas it's allowed to intervene in. It's meant to take the subjectivity out of the decisions not add more subjectivity in there.

    If it's allowing subjectivity, it's a failing system.
     
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  5. Solid Air 2

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    cannot be offside if the ball is pulled back as you need to be in front of the ball when it is played to be offside .
    I think the goal should have stood as lots similar(ish) have however he was close to the GK when ball played so easy to argue he was effecting the play
     
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  6. Solid Air 2

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    no offside days is a subjective decision at times rather than a factual one .

    I personally loath VAR and it is as bad as i feared and still provides no consistency nor necessarily the "right decision" (though all sorts of decisions could go one way or t'other) but i expected that as a huge chunk of football decisions are opinion rather than fact .
     
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  7. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    Er, you sort of missed the point there. I meant the player who pulled the ball back, not the scorer.
     
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  8. Solid Air 2

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    in your example he is utterly irrelevant as how the hell can he be interfering
     
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  9. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    He's in the six-yard box in an offside position - see Quinn's OP that I was answering.
     
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  10. Solid Air 2

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    Robbo was standing near the goal line within feet of the GK as VVD headed the ball there really is no comparison to a man 6 yards from the goal and on the touchline .
     
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  11. Ivan Dobsky

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    Sigh, I agree. Quinner's contention, though, was that anyone in an offside position in a 6-yard box is automatically offside: I countered that by saying that rule is that being in an offside position does not mean you're offside - that is the actual rule. It shouldn't be changed for just one part of the pitch - it doesn't need to be. You're not necessarily active just because you're in the 6-yard box.

    I rest my case. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. Tiresias

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    By the fact your in the six yard box will attract attention even if only a cursory glance from an opposition player.The offside rule needs to be redefined.
     
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    Not like you to be this gloomy, luv. You ok?
     
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  14. Ivan Dobsky

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    The remarkable point of this is that Oliver (again!) thinks that Robertson is "directly in front of him". Though I wouldn't expect the lino who made the call to know otherwise, one simple view on VAR should have told them the Robbo is nowhere near the goalie's eyeline, and the 'movement' (ducking under the ball) was nowhere near as impactful as Doku attempting to head the ball as it flew past him.

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  15. luvgonzo

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    I'm fine about it all. It is what it is. I've said what I think previously so I'm not going to bang on about it I hope I'm wrong but we'll be mid table soon imo and conversations will change again.
     
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  16. RogerisontheHunt

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    We're mid table now.

    Do you mean mid table long term?
     
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  17. Zanjinho

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    Its not a failing system, it's the people using the system that are incompetent
     
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