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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by bradymk2, Jan 10, 2023.

  1. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. But they don’t do them again.
     
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    I have this funny feeling that maybe you just don't get it. :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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    "It"?
     
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    1) We never used to be, when we had control over half of the world we cerainly weren't tolerant, this tolarance thing is something the progressives and left have pushed the last 2 decades and it's brought us to the point where as a country we have no money, crimes don't get punished or even investigated and secterain violence is a very real possibility in the near future.

    2) They aren't good enough to be here....not all cultures are equal !
    Any migration here should only be the very best that are a positive in financial terms and they should integrate and not be telling us what we should and should not be doing like those in Birmingham recently ! We are not the world's bread basket and never ending free money tree, that's even before we come on to the topic of the crimes that come along with them !
     
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  5. Christophalophados

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    ****ing state of this. Money is low because the wealthy are accumulating it and hoarding it at a staggering rate, while basing themselves of out tax havens to ensure they dont have to pay fair tax on it. The country has been privatised, so essentials are held hostage by investors and shareholders, and our quality of life is tied to an idea that a line must continue to go up.

    The majority of migrants are working age and migrants generally have a net positive fiscal contribution, and pay more in tax than they receive in public services. This tax can then be used to fund public services, the NHS etc. Crimes can get punished if you fund the police correctly.

    Regarding the last part about integration, I see plenty of integrated immigrants. They run their own business, they keep our hospital running, they feed us, they clean up after us. They contribute, they pay tax. What the **** do you think integrating is?
     
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    Theres a huge difference between 50k employable, wanting to work migrants and 50k unemployable spongers with their associated issues. They are the things that concern people on migration and its about time people recognise the difference, they are not part of same discussion.
     
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    No it’s not! It’s a symbol to say come to this country legally and intergrate, **** your sharia courts, raping of women etc.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Can we jack this in so we don’t have to close the thread please.
     
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  11. djsowtz

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    It’s a very difficult subject, but then again if someone 1 million percent has clearly killed someone else and clearly caused them to die an horrific death then I would have no sympathy for them. That’s the problem with this country, people are quite literally allowed to get away with murder. Where do you draw the line?
     
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    Never had time last night, but my 8 year old was involved in a knife incident. She’s ok and it doesn’t appear she was in immediate danger, although it could have been different.

    i went shopping with my ex. My 17 year old girl stayed in her Mum’s, 8 year old playing 100 yards from her Mum’s, with 2 friends. My ex drops me off and as soon as she’s in the front door calls me. “Tell your Dad what happened”. They’d wandered into the primary school that’s right there and a boy had walked past them with a knife. She described him. This was about 4pm and it’s now just after 5pm. She told her sister, but she didn’t think to call us.

    I called the police after questioning Emily. They came up asked her questions and I put it on the local Facebook community group. Police didn’t want to raise an incident number because they weren’t sure if they believed Emily. Comments on Facebook about it’s just kids playing and we’re over-reacting.

    Luckily about 8.30pm a woman text in to say she’d also witnessed the same thing at the exact same location at 5pm, although slightly different description of the alleged offender. She said she was waiting til Monday to report it although I doubt she was going to do anything at all.

    it’s terrible though that it took the word of an adult to convince people. My daughter had a lucky escape as far as I’m concerned and is now not allowed out around the area for obvious reasons although she does have an enclosed garden shared with the other flats that she can use.
     
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    Glad she’s ok.
     
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    Thank you. So many people not taking it seriously, but it is happening on our doorsteps.
     
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    It’s very easy to disregard an event like that but one wrong word to the aggressor and things can change instantly.
     
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    If that was the case, then no one would ever plead guilty to murder, resulting in a long expensive trials, painful again for the victims family, and potentially getting let off on technicalities or a sympathetic/uncertain jury.

    I think there has to be a prison reform in the UK - it's certainly not pleasant inside, but phone and drug usage is rife and the punishment is clearly not working for many, especially if their outside life is worse and more dangerous. It would be cheaper to have social services better involved with families and identifying children who will turn to crime and ensuring education and future prospects, but this is a long term, expensive project that won't win votes in the short term. It seems like a lot of knife crime in the UK recently is partially related to mental health issues... Nearly two decades of relative cuts to mental health services won't have helped.
     
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    Lots of people arriving from cultures where knife carrying is normal hasn’t helped either. Never used to see machetes and knives the size of swords a few years back. Now we have kids born here copying these things.
     
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