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Match Day Thread Brentford v Newcastle United

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by ToonArmy1892, Nov 6, 2025 at 12:00 PM.

  1. Roland Deschain

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    Hes going to have to sell about 5 players first.
     
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  2. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Maybe.
     
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  3. jimileysbaldhead

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    I'm absolutely convinced Howe is the right man for us. The bloke has worked wonders in the 4 years he's been in charge, people forget the sh!t show he inherited. Would the moaners have taken what he's achieved at the start of his tenure?
     
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  4. Charlie Snakescock

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    Doesn't like Hall despite was first choice starter last season under he got injury and got into the Eland squad under Howe? Who is this striker we spent £80m? Woltemade who cost £69m and has been a huge success.

    To show how reactionary and in the moment this is, you then cite Arsenal who were poor last season, lost to us 3 times out of 4 and barely deserved then point they did win. Have started well this season, but the only team to do that. Villa had an awful start, Liverpool are on a terrible run, Spurs are messing up and Man U are nowhere near the best.
     
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  5. Charlie Snakescock

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    As GG said, you are just deluded by the "pathetic notion" that Howe has won a trophy.

    I was expecting GG due to have chilled slightly during his exile from here, but no, he comes straight back in raging.
     
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  6. jimileysbaldhead

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    In that case I must be off my f@cking trolley deluded because he saved us from relegation, got us into the Champion's League twice, given us hope which we never had and won a trophy.
     
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  7. Roland Deschain

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    Absolutely right. But there must be a question mark today after getting £600m to spend and currently sittting in 14th, with the majority of the performances since the incredible LC win being insipid and furthermore with us not seeming to get any better. It’s been a while, 7 months and counting, of mainly poor performances, results and transfers.

    I think it’s ok to question things when they’re going wrong. Is it right to want him sacked right now? Not a chance. But it has to improve, probably will, and i would guess almost the entire fan base wouldn’t be happier than seeing Howe lead a revival. I definitely hope he does it, deep down think he will in spite of board moaning and am actually really interested to see if he can move to the next level with a better supporting cast.
     
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  8. No27

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    The owners don't get enough credit.. £££ was the biggest reason behind our success and Howes management beneath that.

    Managers are only as good as the club they work for.. That's why there's no point in sacking Howe.. They're all pretty irrelevant.

    I'm not trying to sound like a ****, but that's the reality.
     
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  9. Roland Deschain

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    Fundamentally it’s hard to disagree for simple reasons of spending. Best managers ever, or best spending ever? Ferguson, Mourinho, Guardiola, Klopp. Even Keegan got big bucks. Give managers top players for top dollar and surprise surprise they produce results. There’s outliers, like Leicester under Ranieri, Wigan under Martinez. So the question for us is where does the club go? Are we an outlier or can we be a sustained force? The answer will probably come from Wilson and Hopkinson rather than Howe.
     
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  10. Rum & Black for 2

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    No, I am sure they are idiots. He may be sacked in the future or leave by mutual consent etc. The liklihood is he will at some stage. No one, or hardly no one, goes on forever.

    But to be calling for EH's head now is stupid. Laying down ultimatums and/or demands is also childish and stupid.

    EH has earned the right to be given time to address any problems. So let's give him time. Let's see what things are like when he's able to play his first team, something I don't think he's had the chance to do this season yet.

    Most people work better with encouragement and support rather than threats or ultimatums. But it's okay, he's just a football manager of my team so let's go overboard because we don't agree with him. Not saying you but there are some FM 2025 managers on here who IMO do.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it helps if it’s based on facts and reality.
     
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    Hall hasn't been fit before now. He was on the bench a while back but then broke down again.He was first choice previously when he was fit. Doesn't sound like EH dislikes him.
    Think the fee was £69M and not £80M but that striker is young, playing in the PL for the first time, necessitates a change of tactics but has still managed to score 6 goals.
    Both our first choice full backs have been out injured for most of the season. Arsenal have, I would guess as haven't checked, spent more money on their squad over the last 5-10 years and started with a squad at a higher/better level.
     
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    I agree. Money is usually at the root of football success with an occasional exception.
    But the money has to be used correctly to be successful as it's not the only factor as the Scouse Mackems proved.
     
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  13. Charlie Snakescock

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    Howe would have been sacked long ago by Ashley, for the simple reason we're doing well. He hated Europe under Pardew, and Cabaye was immediately sold and the key player taken out, so we could be back to the barely achieving **** Ashley loved.
     
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    I don’t want him sacked. I just want him to start learning from the same mistakes.

    He gets to the end of the season and then some.

    It is possible we have hit the ceiling atm with FFP and other things blocking our progress.

    But he has to fix the away form issue. It’s a big problem. I don’t know whether it’s a tactics thing or a confidence thing but our away form is poor.
     
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  15. Roland Deschain

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    We didn’t hit a ceiling, we had another poor recruitment window. Howe just needs to step away from transfers. Going to be really interesting after this CEO review if Andy Howe is still there.
     
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    Woltemade - good
    Wissa - Jury out
    Ramsey - average/good
    Ramsdale - average/good
    Thiaw - excellent
    Elanga - poor

    May not have been the greatest window but it wasn't a poor window. All the above are early days as well. May need time to settle. Wissa obviously hasn't played but given his background I would anticipate a 'good' result when he does.

    So which of the above do you disagree with?
     
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    It's clearly been a good window. I remember when Graeme Souness wanted to transform the squad and immediately brought in Boumsong, Babayaro and Amdy Faye.
     
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    We agree <diva>
     
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    Ask yourselfs a simple question.

    Take into account the squad 4 years ago.

    Is Pope better than Darlow? Yes/No
    Is Ramsdale better than Woodman? Yes/No
    Is Targett better than Lewis? Yes/No
    Is Hall better than Dummett? Yes/No
    Is Burn better than Clark? Yes/No
    Is Botman better than Lascelles? Yes/No
    Is Thiaw better than Fernandez? Yes/No
    Is Trippier better than Manquillo? Yes/No
    Is Tino better than Krafth? Yes/No
    Is Bruno better than Shelvey? Yes/No
    Is Tonali better than Anderson? Yes/No
    Is Ramsey better than Longstaff? Yes/No
    Is Gordon better than Maxi? Yes/No
    Is Barnes better than Fraser? Yes/No
    Is Elanga better than Miggy? Yes/No
    Is Wissa better than Gayle? Yes/No
    Is Woltemade better than Wilson? Yes/No

    Is there a 3rd of these transfers from foreign clubs? Yes/No

    If there's more yes's than no's. You then need to bare in mind the complaints of certain unnamed posters regarding Andy Howe/All transfers being from Premier League/Eddie Howe etc and understand that nobody really knows the inner workings of the clubs recruitment or scouting policy and perhaps as well written as their posts can be at times they don't half talk a load of ****e for the sake of a good old moan.

    Final Question

    Is Roly the unnamed poster? Yes/No

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  20. Roland Deschain

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    Hmm, I think that’s a very selective view - my opinion was we needed a first choice GK, RW, RCB and two up top, one being a good to go replacement for Isak. If you consider it like that, Pope remained first choice GK and has been dogshit, Murphy has started more than Elanga, Woltemade isn’t really an out and out CF then Wissa got injured. I also thought we needed something else at LB and didn’t think a centre mid was even remotely necessary. So in my opinion, which is all I’ve got, we:

    GK: failed
    RW: failed
    LB: failed
    RCB: great success
    CF: failed

    Do I think Woltemade could be excellent? Yes, he’s done really well and will get better. But many point to his playstyle as a reason for our struggles! Wissa is just unlucky, Thiaw great and the other two have contributed sod all to the season. So as we look at it from 14th and a £260m spend it was a poor window.
     
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