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Match Day Thread Brentford v Newcastle United

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by ToonArmy1892, Nov 6, 2025 at 12:00 PM.

  1. Gangsta Ginola

    Gangsta Ginola Well-Known Member

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    How much of these problems can we attribute to the Isak saga and the time it took to resolve it.

    The clubs reluctance to let him go and leaving it so late meant we didn’t get that striker in early enough?

    The injuries also are not helping with Hall and Tino. But we didn’t get any proper cover for hall. I know Tino can cover there. But we maybe need another couple of full backs.

    I’m still not sure what’s the reason. This isn’t a recent issue with our away form either.

    Do we have a mentality problem away from
    Home?
     
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  2. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Loyalty and comfort were both Howes solutions and latterly issues at Bournemouth and you just cannot change the nature of a man, he believes in these values and given the relative success at both clubs you can understand why. However I think these are the values to create a stable environment and not as critical when trying to get to the next level. Sir Alex, Wenger, Mourinho, Pep, these guys do what it takes and nobody was above being got rid of.

    The sheer amount of players who aren’t playing well is incredible and you can physically see Tonali struggling with his workload as a result of Howe sticking with players who just can’t cut it. He has precedence here in the last CL season; he was criticised for not dropping poor performing players such as Burn and Trippier then and it was only injury that got Hall and Tino in. If Schar hadn’t been concussed then Thiaw would still be on the bench every week. Now we have a huge chance to get Hall, Ramsdale and Ramsey in - hopefully they can do a job because after that there’s nobody left to play.
     
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  3. G4rdToonArmy

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    Feel's eerily similar to the last CL campaign currently (although obviously progressing better in Europe) with the same players playing week in week out due to injuries. Also think it shows the need for better depth in the squad especially in the defence, luckily Hall is back to replace the suspended Burn but Trippier is playing 90 mins a game currently because there is very little option there.

    I think Howe has to take some of the blame, especially for the away performances - could we be better off, sitting in and countering away from home, instead of the high press and little defensive cover?

    think we will do what we do most seasons and have a run where it all clicks but one things for sure, we need to start improving and quickly.
     
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    Was Isak supposed to make a sub
     
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  5. Awaymag

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    We do have options but Howe wont or is reluctant to use them:

    Option 1: Move Thiaw to RB
    Option 2: Start Trippier and then swap out with Kraft or move Thiaw to RB as one of the subs on the usual 60 mins :)
    Option 3: Start Kraft and then swap out with Trippier if required.

    He had similar on the left if Trips moves across whilst we wait for Hall etc.

    All are options but Howe just goes with the same personnel and then wonders why in the 2nd half we capitulate and lose from a winning position.
     
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  6. Gangsta Ginola

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    I’m not sure what you mean buddy?
     
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  7. Gangsta Ginola

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    I’m not sure we should be giving Howe these excuses.

    Take Brentford for example. Andrew’s is new to the role and they have sold players left right and centre. He’s elevating things right now.

    Meanwhile Howe has had one player sold and we should be understanding of that fact even though we have spent 600m.

    This Howe myth I think is detrimental to the progress of the club. He was the right person for us after Bruce and the takeover.

    But as Man City proved you need to move on. Get better more skilled people.

    We replace players who are good but not elite. So why not managers?

    This pathetic notion that he’s won us a trophy does not give him years of credit. We are owned by the richest people on the planet.

    I would also argue that the PL is probably stronger than the champions league lower teams by a county mile. So out performances in that are entirely expected. Just go and look at how much we have spent compared to the teams we have beat.

    Howe is the man. But NOW is the time to get his billy big bollocks out and ****ing rise.
     
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  8. Roland Deschain

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    FWIW I’m of the firm belief it’s Howes last season. Something about his demeanour since these new execs turned up. Bit like when he seemed to have a strop on once Mitchell turned up. That he’s making the same stupid mistakes he did two years ago……no, even longer as he was doing this “loyalty-first” at Bournemouth is very poor.

    He’s just lost his way to the top and will likely never get there. English managers just never can. He got further than most because he spent a year watching on in Spain but looks like once those ideas have started to dry up so he looks a bit shot.
     
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  9. jimileysbaldhead

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    Usual sh!te being spouted on here.
     
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  10. Charlie Snakescock

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    Oh dear.

    It's like the Star Wars opening crawl, it builds up and up, then drops the bomb, then fades out in to galaxy....

    GG is back.
     
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    It’s the international break, it’s not like we can talk about football.
     
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  12. Charlie Snakescock

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    Everything just gets strange here.

    The "pathetic notion" that Howe just won our first domestic trophy in 70 years, and the first major trophy in the lifetime of most of us?

    And I'm not sure you understand spending rules these days if you're citing the wealth of our owners. Methinks you should have supported Chelsea under Abramovich.
     
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  13. Gangsta Ginola

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    Small club mentality here pal. We need to move on and start to be winners. Not wow we won a ****ing pot and that’s all that matters.

    You need to accept we need to progress and if you want progress you need to move with the times my friend.

    Howe is and always will be assessed on future performance and not past delivery. He gets grace to a degree but what gives you the god given right to be a ****ing judge here.
     
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  14. Charlie Snakescock

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    <laugh>

    Oh ffs, please we don't need this again.
     
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  15. Gangsta Ginola

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    You’re right pal I am back. And I am not backing down to your comments.

    Do you love Howe or something. Do you get yourself on him. You’re a prime chap who says “howe gave us a pot” when actually PIF expect that now as a minimum.

    PIF are not giving him 100’s of millions to be this **** right now. So the guy needs to up his game. You accept that surely????? Your not blind by our away form?
     
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  16. Gangsta Ginola

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    You my friend is completely deluded.
     
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  17. Gangsta Ginola

    Gangsta Ginola Well-Known Member

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    And you do appear to have this god given right to have all our opinions ****ed off because your mind doesn’t like it.

    Accept in your little mind that we “are all allowed our opinions” and yours maybe “****”!

    That felt good. Now cue the **** responses abiy Eddie being a god or something.

    Sigh!
     
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