Great, so you'd be perfectly capable of sitting in your seat calmly having a pint rather than inhaling two pints pre-match.
It's become a massive thing here to chuck beer in the air when a goal is scored, all started with videos of Boxpark in London when England were playing in tournaments.
Oh I more meant I find it strange as a general behaviour. It definitely happens here on the odd occasion too so definitely not just a British thing these days, but people who do it are pretty swiftly dealt with so it's incredibly rare. To tell the truth when I was just 22 back in 2014 watching the FA Cup final in the pub centre of Sydney I may have thrown my (pretty much empty) pint in the air (plastic glass) and someone else got blamed and kicked out.. back then we had 'lockout' laws meaning you couldn't get into a new pub after a certain time, so I didn't own up to it as didn't want to miss the game, but still feel guilty. Think the guy made it to the casino which of course was exempt from the laws..
It's definitely strange you're 100% right. Part of a culture here of people being selfish and not caring about soaking other people however.
100% it's people not thinking about the consequences of their actions. It's where you probably do need heavy handed stewards, as much as people would moan about it, if you're getting kicked out (not banned, just kicked out for that game) for throwing your beer in the air, you'd change your behaviour pretty quickly.
Be very tricky in a crowded away end though going in and dragging people out. Would cause all sorts of bother. I could see a world where beer is allowed in the stands in home ends only to be fair, much less likely to be thrown about and a lot easier to police.
Yeah away end definitely trickier, may need to be a home end only thing, and then perhaps an exclusion zone anywhere close to the away end to avoid people being tempted to throw beers at the away fans (although do people throw food at them..?)
Fair enough Jim but everyone is different. I campaigned for years to get a supporters bar at Boothferry Park after the club broke a promise to us when they closed the one we had, a gift to the fans from Harold Needler, and never replaced it. Adam Pearson finally listened and opened one up which also opened up another lucrative revenue stream for the club. Don't remember it causing any problems either. I get it about 1985, but it's 2025 now, and also why the ban came in, if there ever was a ban at all? But the game and the people who watch football have changed beyond recognition over the last 40 odd years. Sky now broadcast football live to........pubs who pay a fortune to have it because it brings in the punters who spend money. Football and beer is very lucrative otherwise Sky wouldn't exist. I don't think rugby league will ban it either because the clubs will lose too much money and the sport is hardly flush with it as it is. They will never ban it, like they will never admit to having a hooligan problem. Its a family game isn't it? As they keep reminding us. If it's good enough for rugby league fans to have a pint in your seats then I see no reason why football fans should be treated any differently, even more so in the same stadium in the same city.
It's funny you and I fall on the same side with this but opposite sides with the blackout rules when my view on both is that they're anachronistic in 2025 and that fan behaviour/routines are not going to be thrown into chaos by either being removed. And similarly to you, think that it would actually have an overall benefit to the fan experience (and in this case, to the club's coffers as you rightly point out).
I don’t know when this trend of beer-chucking when watching football became a thing. See it a lot during international tournaments when England score and they have the game on a big screen at some public venue. It’s just cringy and performative. It’s not even like a little bit of the drink spills because of the celebrations. About 50 bellends chuck full pints 20 feet in the air at once. You’re allowed bottles of pop to drink in your seat and funnily enough, I’ve not seen anyone in the East Stand lob a full bottle of Coke or Dr Pepper 20 feet in the air when City score. The beer-chucking is just bellends trying too hard to look cool.
On a separate note, Joseph pressing like an animal with seconds left is why I love him. He will continue to frustrate with his missed chances but in 10 years, he will be a cult hero like Meyler.
Re The 'Blackout'. Or screening Saturday 3.00pm ko's live in England. This would undoubtably effect the attendances at every live game played at that time from the Premier League right down to the lowest of non league level. But show live games abroad by all means and if fans in other countries want to subscribe then all the better. Of course it wouldn't by 3.00pm on Saturday there though would it?
Yeah didn't mean to pick at that scab as I don't think we're going to agree on that, was just pointing out that they're both anachronistic and you and I are aligned on one not the other. To Kalman's point it's crazy to think you can have soft drink in your seat and that doesn't cause issues (throwing at away fans, throwing in the air when scoring, etc.).
You really do like to preach don’t you Syd. I was at the Ireland vs All Blacks match in Chicago last week. Union is a different crowd, both sets of fans completely mixed and beer being drunk everywhere, concourse and seats, before, during and after. Football could learn a lot from Union but it’s just two different crowds I reckon. Unfortunate but at least I enjoy both.
How exactly was that post preaching? I made a general comment that not having to down beers would prevent intoxication, Jim took it as being directed at him.
