Match Day Thread Nottingham Forest v Leeds United

**** it.....I'm too pissed off to think rationally..

 

how many £20m players do you think we have - I’ll start the bidding. None.

 

Possibly Rodon?

 

maybe, and I thought amps was until recently.

 

Leeds boss Daniel Farke, speaking to BBC Match Of The Day 2 after their 3-1defeat to Nottingham Forest:

"Football games on this level are decided with small details. We have to make sure we are more switched on. We concentrate on the things we can influence and should have defended the cross situation. It was crucial.

"We didn't didn't follow their full-back and that can happen but not after we've just celebrated. We lost two 50/50 duels and then the cross comes in. We could have defended the situation more competitively.

"Dominic [Calvert-Lewin] has not trained the whole week. He had the ability to play about 30 minutes or whatever.

"We know our home form is always important. We could have made our life easier with some away points but it is how it is. I did expect a tricky period. We have conceded too many goals in the last two away games."

 

It’s never his fault or his tactics always blame someone else. Longstaffe still taking dead ball kicks? Subs on at 70 minutes? Ampadu pants for last couple of games but not swapped out, having both full backs bombing up the pitch and be out of position after we get countered, we didn’t press them and again defended too deep allowing them to keep coming and getting crosses in. Predictable and toothless as we frig around trying to keep the ball in our half and show a lack of ideas and attacking instinct. Only Okafor tried to beat them and he was double teamed a lot because Dyche knew he was our outlet. Garbage

 

A tricky period? they were bread and butter games. wait till next month Dannyboy them tricky games will turn to one sided massacres.
best be honest and come out and say the players were shyte, I was shyte and the whole campaign is turning into shyte.

 

To be fair you have a point.. that’s the minimum though in terms of values of players

 

We spent over £80m on a new keeper 4 new defenders and 2 new DMs yet we are conceding lots of goals. Our only outlet has been the £18m we spent on Okafor. As it stands right now the team is wrong, the tactics wrong, DF refuses to change things or doesn’t know how even at half time. Are the players really bad or are they not happy with what they are skied to do. There are no positives at all, besides Perri pulling off some brilliant saves in the last couple of games and some decent runs from Okafor. Gudmundson is great in attack but another Firpo at times at the back

 

Agree, I was just pointing out how relatively weak our squad is… and some think we can pop to tesco’s buy a new manager and it’ll all be sorted.

 

I agree to an extent.

The issue i have now is that the same mistakes are happening week in week out. Opposition midfielders are getting open goals every game.

I don't think you need a 20 million midfielder to run. If Farke cant get his players to stay with runners then he will have to go and hopefully there is someone out there that will make them run the hard yards.

Its a bit like him persisting with Meslier despite **** up after **** up. After the second or third **** up which has cost points then it stops being a Meslier issue and more of a "why won't the manager drop him?" issue.

I'm not absolutely sold on the 'Farke must go' ideology but with each passing game watching the same basic mistakes both tactical and individual I'm starting to turn again. A bit like after the Swansea game last season where my patience finally snapped and I went full "Either Meslier goes or Farke does".

 

On a more positive personal level. You miserable ****ers convinced me Leeds are going down so I stuck £50 on Forest today and also £50 on us to be relegated at 5/2.

The leveller is that today's winnings doesn't even pay for me and my sons ticket to Villa at home where I expect further heartbreak in a couple of weeks. At least I'll have a nice dinner.

 

No **** Sherlock!!!

"We have conceded too many goals in the last two away games."

 

Lots of people suggesting Farke doesn’t pick the right side however bar maybe James for Aaronson would anyone have picked a different side today?

 

Not sure James is fully fit.

Its not necessarily him picking the wrong side. Its more him making the same mistakes or not fixing the mistakes made previously for me.

 

Well here's three names to maybe consider, in no particular order.....Gerard, Klopp and McKenna.

 

Evening all. Rubbish signings. Relegation confirmed. Nothing wort adding

 

I’d lost patience with three managers over meslier .

I half agree. He berated longstaff for the wolves goal. Ampadu has let 2 guys go now. He can’t drop them all can he? Imagine the furore if he picked gruev. Do you coach defensive midfielders to go with their man or pass him on… or do they learn that at primary school. Genuinely, it’s individual mistakes… sadly they are symptomatic of sides that go down. Play ok, competitive in the game, have chances don’t take them, give up a sloppy goal. Sometimes it’s luck, sometimes the difference between top players and ok ones is that ability to concentrate. The second goal really pissed me off today - when do we ever get a cheap goal from a random cross into the box when the defence is set. They didn’t have to work for it.

 

Suppose the simple answer is that his zonal marking isn't working. It needs a tactical twitch. Wouldn't take a genius to look at Arsenal and how they set up and copy it. Same with attacking set pieces.

Yes it's individual mistakes but when the mistake is not running hard enough then that should be an easy one to fix.

One example is during the 2nd half when Gudmundsson ran 60 or 70 yards with the ball and made it all the way to the byline and nobody could be arsed to sprint in to the box. Aaronson just jogged and I think it was Nmecha who kind of half heartedly wandered forward. They only sprinted when it was too late to get there. Another was a long throw in the first half where the ball landed in the 6 yard box and not one Leeds player anticipated that everyone would miss it. Keeper just walked off his line and caught it after it had bounced.

If Farke can't point out these simple errors and get a reaction from the players then he will have to go. If they won't run for him then it's curtains. 3 out of the last 4 games have been lost due to a lack of effort more than a lack of quality.

 

Need to defend from the front sometimes.

We cant do that. DCL has no one next to him if he wins flick ons and hardly sees the ball anyway.

I can see what Farke wants to do, but we cant do it.

Not sure where the blame lays but something needs to change and sharp.

I dont think hoping theres worse teams than us will cut it for long. I see us and wolves bottom two at the moment