Attendances

My first game was a free school ticket.

Hull City 4-0 Southend

Few years later, after an occasional game here and there, I got a pass and have had one ever since.

Empty seats aren’t buying hotdogs and shirts.

 

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It depends on what the average spend on merchandise and in the concourse of them people are. Plus obvious the cost of running the stadium will have gone up.

But take your point that ticket price rises will have probably off set that to a point where it is equal or better.

 

Agree with the above. Even in the free scoring days of Wagstaff and Chilton and the revival we saw when Terry Neill joined as player manager in the summer of 1970 our gates went up and down like a yo yo. We attracted a few big crowds ( by todays standards) that season and still ended up with well less then 15,000 in the ground for the last home game of the 70/71 season and an average for the season around the 21,000 mark which was considered very good.
It was cheap in those days too, no messing about having to order tickets, we had a railway station alongside the ground, and getting to ground by car was a lot easier then it is today.
I've heard fans cry off recently because of the difficulties in getting a bus to the ground? Others because its on Sky or the firestick, two factors we didn't have to contend with back in the day. Also the traffic congestion in Hull with work on Clive Sully Way and Drypool Bridge recently closed is another factor. I was stuck in gridlock traffic at 11.30pm in the city centre recently after a night game, and we never had those problems years ago.
So taking all things into consideration I think the attendances we get today are very good, for us as a club and Hull as a region.
We are not a Sunderland, a Middlesboro, Norwich or even a Sheffield club, things are different around here and always have been. On top of all of that we can only get 24,500 in the ground if we were the Champions of Europe and a good percentage of those would have to be away fans.
Also agree the messing about with the kick off times is another big factor and cannot think that anyone welcomes a 12.30 kick off.

 

There's an awful lot of pointless fuss on this thread. The first 7 home games last season included Sheff Utd (as this season), but also Sunderland (23,072) and Cardiff (22,665) which was a £15 max ticket game.

 

Given what the club has been through over the decades is always difficult to lambast those who continue to turn up week after week watching City and they should be applauded . Having said that it’s no secret the number of people who want tickets to see City at home really does depend on form and league position. If those two factors ever become a reality in terms of real success as we have seen over the years both Boothferry Park and MKM stadium never seemed big enough to accommodate the demand or seats.


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All I keep hearing about is this 'cost of living' thing they're trying to program into people. It's rubbish.
People are spending as much as ever, it's just being done differently which is causing some smaller shops and pubs to close.

We don't really use supermarkets other than for cleaning products etc but I'm guessing the price of processed junk is no higher than it was before when you have price wars between them all.

Energy prices are very high, I accept that, but what else is causing this 'cost of living crisis' that doesn't seem to be troubling anybody I know or know of?

 

That is your answer. It is down to people giving up last season and a terrible summer caused by the embarrassing situation with the EFL. I'm sure many cancelled before the end of the season and others in the summer. I know a guy in front of me did but my mate has took his seats so that's irrelevant.

 

I agree, we still have very competitive ticket prices compared to the rest of the league, but realistically how much a Wednesday fan pays is irrelevant to a City fans decision to keep their membership or not.

If your council tax went up £200 it would be no consolation to you that you’re still paying less than someone in another county.

 

Wish the guy on the row behind me cancelled.

 

I agree, we still have very competitive ticket prices compared to the rest of the league, but realistically how much a Wednesday fan pays is irrelevant to a City fans decision to keep their membership or not.

If your council tax went up £200 it would be no consolation to you that you’re still paying less than someone in another county.[/QUOTE]
I would guess that members aren't the issue here. It's the 3000 floaters that are not yet returning. Maybe they're waiting for cheap ticket deals again?
There is a lad I know who was a pass holder and he just brings his daughter now when they do offers and sits in the west upper.

Hopefully the decent form will entice some more serious punters back.

 

The times they are a.. changed.
Not so long ago over 30% of household income was spent on food now it's around 10%. No one wants to drive an old car save up and get a better one later, just sign up to a pcp deal and have a new car every 3 years. Live with your parents and save up a deposit to buy your own place, nah can't live with them anymore so go off and rent a place then moan that you can't save up a deposit. Buy a small house, do it up a bit, wait a few years and then trade up, nah people want to buy first house in Kingswood for over £250,000. Can't be bothered to cook a quick easy cheap meal so call in a takeaway delivered to your door.

 

I think older generations would have done exactly the same as the younger generations are doing when presented with the same opportunities.

People didn’t get cars on finance or deliveroo back then because they didn’t exist, they just did what was available to them at the time, the same as people are doing now.

 

Deliveroo and uber eats are absolutely thriving
So we are either a nation of pure fatties
And/or people spend half their income on food

Deliveroo etc charge £s on top of the normal meal charge

 

So much is social media
All about showing off and appearing rich



A bmw 318d with a fake M badge
.you know, the m badge is on the very high performance bmw cars
New bmw m4 is £80k

But its that need to try and show off to make it look like you have an M car
Made me chuckle

 

I'm older generation and we did do things differently. Married in 1974 and rented, in those days rented accommodation was scarce. Remember going to see a rented cottage down Church Street in Sutton and there must have been 50 people in the queue outside waiting to view. This led to gazumping. My first rent for a flat on Park Avenue in Hull was £16 a week, and twice as much as my first mortgage for a two up two down house. My wife earned £15 a week working full time at Reckitts in those days, just enough to pay the rent. We save £10 a week for months to be able to put a deposit down for the mortgage, which was £300 then bought a very cheap run down house and 'did it up', moving up the housing ladder that way, a bit at a time.
We bought second hand furniture, a second hand telly, no central heating, no double glazing, and besides the mortgage, no debt.
Worked all the overtime possible, even took on a football pools round, and did odd jobs for people. The wife did part time jobs, even selling Avon door to door, whilst bringing up three children.
A takeaway was fish and chips, a treat, maybe once a fortnight and you went for it yourself.
We never had a car for the first five years of married life and our first one cost £50. Credit was available but I was brought up not to take on that sort of debt. 'If you cannot afford it, you don't need it' .
I sold City fireside bingo tickets and later the City scratch cards and used the 10% commission made on them to pay for my football on a Saturday.
Because we knew no different. That is how it was.
Que.....'we lived in a shoe box in a hole in the road'......

 

"Luxury "

 

agreed on most of the above.
Simple fact it people now own more stuff and want more stuff. There is more to actually own than before and most have no idea or wish how to cut down and save a bit of cash.

 

Price have gone up but are still amongst the lowest. Lad I know is a Norwich season ticket holder and it costs him £530 for safe standing behind the goal compared to our £300. And they have a waiting list for season tickets in any part of the ground. A Wednesday fan I was speaking to yesterday pays about £500 for their Kop End.[/QUOTE]

That will change after the planned protests

 

We live in a society which loves to blame someone else. Young people driving round in brand new Audi A1's on finance drinking £4 coffee from starbucks and having a trip to Ibiza every summer for £2000 and then moaning because they cant get on the property ladder 'because prices are crazy' and 'they need too much deposit'.

Live to your means. My missus gets a bus to work a lot of days despite us being able to afford a second car. She is right, we dont really need it, the bus does the job, it just doesnt look cool on instagram I guess.

But your point about take aways is the key one for me. That is why we are a nation of sick and fat people. My neighbour who we share a drive with must get pizza delivered 5 days a week. Sometimes its one of their kids, but as a family they get pizza delivered 5 times a week at least. When I was working outside in summer and told him and his mate who were also working out there that I was looking forward to a pizza and a couple of cans as a treat for my birthday that evening they laughed in my face saying something about 'You're excited about a pizza for your birthday'. A take away is no longer a treat to people, it is now just their tea and having no washing up or cooking time means they can scroll facebook longer like a bunch of zombies.

 

Lots of contributing factors Jim agreed. Still maintain if City ever get into the top two of the Championship via winning side we wouldn’t be having a discussion about how many empty seats there are at the MKM.

Hopefully I can be proven wrong.


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