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Will Still OUT

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by tomw24, Sep 20, 2025.

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Sack now?

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  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    A better GK and a clinical big striker to come in, in January and we will be good to go, we just need to try and keep in touch until the new year.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I get that but I'd rather have the right appointment than a quick appointment.
     
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  3. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    The thing that shocked me the most was the 'sick players' stuff, included, not-included, taxis. I mean, this is the sort of thing that a Sunday morning team might get up to - knocking on someone's front door to get him up to play - but not a fully professional club with many people involved in the organising of the team etc.

    If correct, I find it flabbergasting.
     
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  4. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    When was the last time we hired a manager who started off slowly but improved as time went by?

    Russ had a rocky start, improved for a while, before slumping spectacularly.

    Poch and Ralph both hit the ground running and more or less maintained the momentum for the most part.

    Koeman started off like a f*cking rocket and was our best manager for decades.

    Puel started okay, remained okay, and left us okay.

    Selles started well but turned out sh*t

    The others (Jones, Juric) started badly and only got worse.

    It’s just seemingly a bit of a myth that managers will improve with time. It’s more the case that if they don’t hit the ground running, then it’s a bit of a red flag.

    Still has started badly, and is getting worse. There is no excuse I can think of for him.
     
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  5. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    It's the fact that he can't set up a coherent team or manage it proficiently in game that is the biggest red flag for me.
     
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  6. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Just the mention of Koeman makes me pine for him.

    With him, you knew where you were and had faith. You could pretty much predict his subs to the exact minute he would make them, including the identities of who would be coming off and on. It just all made sense. Whereas with Still, you just sit there and think "why aren't you making a sub"...and then a little while later "seriously now, why aren't you making a sub"...and then eventually "why the **** are you making that sub, are you crazy".
     
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  7. Billy Bates

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    Agreed. It’s. It even as if we may get some traction against the less good teams in the league. We just lost to one of them.

    With Will Still managing us we are one of the worst teams in the division, despite having a pretty decent team.

    He should be getting a far better tune out of them, and I feel he has under achieved and won’t get anywhere near where we should be with the team he has at his disposal.

    That said, I was hoping he’d be gone already and that doesn’t look likely it will happen. Wonder if he gets the next game. Just sounds like the same old rinse and repeat failing of a failed sports project that is SR.
     
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  8. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    We were 0-2 down at halftime versus Liverpool and won 3-2.

    I'm 64 in July - if I make it - and I am saying right now I will never see another Southampton team or manager do that to that team again.
     
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  9. Brinkworth Saint

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    An issue for me is the sudden non availability of players and now injuries occurring more often. How much of the former is down to poor management and the latter on the back room team I’m not sure. Watching highlights (unable to attend so far) one could be forgiven for thinking how good we play for substantial periods. How al that turns into ridiculous defeats is the dilemma because players shutting down their concentration and then literally giving the ball away and the questionable substitutions that occur I’d have thought should be ironed out pretty quickly? January is the decision time for me, too many managers and their entourage, just is not the answer. In that regard we are very knowledgeable!!
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I'm 30 years younger than you and I don't think I'll ever see that again in the top flight.

    We of course came from two down v Hudders couple of seasons back.
     
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  11. Saintmagic

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    I’m mid thirties and i don’t think i’ll ever see us in the top flight again
     
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  12. TheRealSaints

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    Did your research involve getting his phone number?
     
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  13. Saintmagic

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    Said at the time of his appointment that it was a gamble we didn’t need to take if the plan was to go straight back up.

    Been talked about a little on here and I know some people like his no nonsense interviews but he just comes across as monotone and boring to me. Most crucial thing for any new manager coming in (especially coming into the club off the back of last season) is to motivate the players and get them confident again. I can’t imagine Still being a great motivator from what we see in his media stuff.

    7 points off the playoffs is poor at this stage of the season, and still easily enough time to turn it round. Can argue we have been unlucky at times when we should’ve scored more, but ultimately if it’s happening most weeks then something is wrong.

    If we do sack him not sure who I’d turn to. Cooper was my first choice by miles but he’s got a job now. The unemployed list doesn’t throw up any names to me immediately, so probably have to go for someone in a job, and that’s never easy mid season. Think we should still be attractive enough to a lot of managers though, and I don’t think we need a really top tier manager to get this squad performing at this level
     
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  14. TheWatcher

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    Will Still's last team to manage was Lens and whilst under his stewardship they finished 8th in the league, thanks to an end of season win which meant they leapfrogged over Brest who lost their final game, this was 1 place lower than the previous year. Currently Lens are 2nd in the table,1 point behind PSG without him in the dugout.
    Saying there are no better managers out there and that we shouldn't change and stick with him until the end of the season because we've made too many bad managerial mistakes in the past is just plain stupid. Evidence is of the contrary.
     
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