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The Championship Thread - 2025/26

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, May 13, 2025.

  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    He could play those through balls to feed Adarma and Archer but i'm hoping that Azaz comes in and does it on saturday.
     
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  2. st_brendy

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    Smallbone, Bree and Taylor all out on loan, and all in or around the play-offs.

    I'm not going to say that the players we recruited aren't good enough, but I do think some of them were unnecessary.

    At least we don't have the embarrassment of Diaz being above us too. Or at least not yet!
     
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  3. Le Tissier's Laces

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    I get a bit frustrated by this thought process (though it's understandable when we're being turd) - there's not a scout (or probably a fan) out there that would think Bree is a better player than Jalert or Roerslev, or that Smallbone is a better player than Azaz. I have no idea about what or where a Taylor fits in really, as we didn't see enough of him. It's like the "Onuachu has scored loads in Turkey" or "Sulemana is looking good for Atlanta" thing (let alone the Ballard scored a hat-trick for Leyton Orient).

    Much as Jones and Juric are looking good at the moment as managers, it's just that certain players and certain managers suit certain clubs and certain formations/situations.

    The trouble right now is that it's hard to know who suits our club (or our formation) which is a failing of how we are right now, not that we have suddenly lost the next R9 or Roberto Carlos. They're not great players that we've let go.
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Added to which, if we're still struggling at RB, Bree will be back in January (I'd probably do that anyhow just to weaken Charlton, and more importantly to annoy NJ). At which point we'll probably all complain after two games that he's not very good, but there we are.
     
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  5. st_brendy

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    I'm not saying that Bree is better than Jelert and Roerslev. We discussed just the other day how much I liked Jelert vs Swansea. But why did we need to sign acquire both of them? I don't even rate Bree, and yet I'd have accepted him as our second choice option for this season.

    Every pound spent this season, whether on wages or loan fees or transfer fees, is a pound less which we could have saved for next season.
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Fair point, although there is a question about doing the right thing by the player, and Bree may well have been very keen to link up again with NJ etc and we decided not to get in the way of that. Plus on the flip side of your point, we'd be getting a loan fee back for that.
     
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  7. doritoharv

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    Sometimes players work in your system (or with your manager) and sometimes they don't. Life isn't black and white.

    Just look at the likes of De Bruyne and Salah. Couldn't get anywhere with Chelsea but ultimately turned out to be immense elsewhere. Plenty of our players have been great for us and then struggled elsewhere (Schneiderlin, Beattie, Ward-Prowse) while others have excelled even further (Van Dijk, Mane, Shearer).

    So many variables will determine the success of a player and bar a few outliers either side, most of them are probably so close in ability that it ultimately boils down to things like injuries, managers, systems, settling in and most of all - a bit of luck.

    I'm a believer that you can apply the concept of the 'normal distribution' to almost anything in life
     
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  8. metalmonkey80

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    It seems that a lot of my good memories of saints seem to have had a plucky bald midfielder in the team (though marsden is the earliest I can recall at the moment)
     
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  9. Saints_Alive

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    Spike Armstrong in the 80s, great player...

    Armstrong-David-head-and-shoulders-a-Z.jpg

    Will's hair has grown back now btw.
     
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