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Will Still OUT

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  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I agree there's definitely an element of that and that most people would, but I think the whole xg thing is fundamentally flawed as it's not something which is strictly measurable.

    I think you said that ours v Swansea was significantly higher than Brentford had at West Ham which is an absolute nonsense imo.
     
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  2. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we were about 1.2 higher
     
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  3. RSS

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    It's where one of our issues lie, but it's not our only issue. Our xG has been so high because we have missed a few absolute sitters and a few very good chances too. I don't think we've been creating loads of chances every game. Enough to have a few more points on the board sure. But even with that we are still a long way off performing like a top team at this level.
    We rarely get more than a 20 minutes spell where we play well and create chances in a game. Not sure you'd really expect to win many games if you only play well for such short periods of games. I don't think everything is Will Stills fault at all. But our issues aren't purely down to our finishing either, or our brain fart defending, or GK errors.
     
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  4. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I'm not keen at looking at xG on a granular level - eg one match - but I do like it on a much wider level. It's very clear that, for example, we've scored far less than we should have done, whilst Coventry have been fortunate to have as many goals as they do. xG duly reflects that.

    I recently read xGenius, which I found quite an interesting book on the subject.
     
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  5. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the fact that 4 of the top 6 in that table are actually in the bottom half of the real table tells a story.
     
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  6. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Agreed.

    Our quantity of missed chances is a big problem, and it's certainly cost us points, but I do think some people are hiding behind that even though it's clearly not our only issue.
     
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  7. AberdeenSaint

    AberdeenSaint Well-Known Member

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    Right back is singularly the easiest position in the team to fill. I used to be a RB ! Of course it would be great to have a specialist RB in that position, but any competent player with some defensive nous should be able to slot in. Edwards, Stephens or Downes for example.
     
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  8. Billy Bates

    Billy Bates Well-Known Member

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    Not in a back 3 it isnt. In a flat back 4 i feel it is easier, yes.

    I'd be happy with a back 4 with Edwards playing the RB role. Weirdly though i think Downes would be a disaster there.
     
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  9. AberdeenSaint

    AberdeenSaint Well-Known Member

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    Agree, RWB is a more challenging role.
     
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  10. jonny 'hasen' shuttle

    jonny 'hasen' shuttle Well-Known Member

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    Id bet my house (if i had one) thatv WS will not be manager come the end of the season
     
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  11. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    It's not so much that - what worries me is who will replace him and whether that person will get the players they want, or will they pretend the players they have are exactly what they desire (because they are desperate for the job)?
     
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