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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Trump Special Envoy Steve Witkoff....

    I would like to acknowledge the vital role of the United Kingdom in assisting and coordinating efforts that have led us to this historic day in Israel. In particular, I want to recognize the incredible input and tireless efforts of National Security Advisor Jonathan Powell.
     
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    The Chinese government also want to thank Jonathan Powell for the incredible input and tireless efforts on their behalf.
     
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    You can't seriously think there's anything in this 'spy scandal' ****, surely?

    I'd trust the Chinese more than I would Trump's US anyway. Choose your authoritarian.

    Pure fascism in the USA right now.
     
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    Afraid I do. The two accused dickheads of course would only be supplying low level crap that was virtually publicly available. Jonathan Powell is a creature of Tony Blair, who loves to rub himself up against powerful dictators, the Chinese included. These venal Kissinger disciples would protect power at the cost of morality every day of the year. They think they are clever and playing a long term geopolitical game ‘in our interests’ but they have sacrificed all vestiges of integrity in the process. Starmer appears to be as thick as pig **** and blindly following the last voice he heard.

    If you really think the US is as authoritarian as China I suggest you visit China and try to protest against Xi, like the No King protests yesterday. US is definitely going in the wrong direction but it’s not a fraction of what China has always been.
     
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    Of course the US isn't as authoritarian as China right now, but I'd say 'going in the wrong direction' is a significant understatement as to what's actually happening there.

    Regarding the 'spy scandal', I was at a wedding yesterday and was talking to my nephew's wife, who's a DCS in the counter-terrorism unit of the Met Police. She's currently working on something connected to the China spy case, but was sadly not allowed to give me any info. I ventured that I thought the spy thing was a lot of fuss about nothing and all she could do was give me an inscrutable knowing smile. Frustrating, but I got her to promise to give me the inside story once it's all finished.
     
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    China has spent much of the 21st century spreading it's tentacles around the globe, particularly in Africa and South America, with massive investment in many poorer countries in areas such as infrastructure, tech & communications and mining of key minerals. They have given massive lines of credit enabling them to gain influence and often political alignment.

    Looking at what is happening here it would seem Labour are desperate to woo them but at what price? The Tories took a step back from some of our agreements with them after also having been happy to give them a free rein so we're in a difficult place at present but you get the feeling Starmer can't afford to upset them now...
     
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