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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    He is a pathetic leader and yet another in a long line of politicians who live in the Westminster bubble where they have only the vaguest idea of what their citizens are thinking, what they really want from a government, or what people are facing in their daily lives.

    On the plus side I’m all for him damaging his own reputation further, especially in public. because it plays right into Reforms hands, and mud slinging is all he’s got to offer, not real actions

    As for Burnham destroying the economy, the current rabble are already doing a great job.
     
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  2. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    More doooooom and gloom from a TOP RESPECTED ECONOMIST .........

    Rachel Reeves does not have a credible plan to grow the economy and get debt down,
    one of Britain’s most respected economists has said.
    Sir Charlie Bean, who has held senior posts at both the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) and the Bank of England,
    said he did not believe that Ms Reeves’s policies could arrest the recent upward lurch in UK borrowing costs.

    His intervention comes as economists warn that Ms Reeves will have to raise taxes by at least £30bn to balance the books in her November Budget.
    The predicament is partly of the Chancellor’s own making after costly about-turns blew a hole in her finely balanced plans.
    Ms Reeves is keen to repair her plans and restore £9.9bn of headroom against her fiscal goals in an effort to convince voters and investors that she has a plan for the economy.

    Sir Charlie said simply restoring the wafer-thing headroom mattered “less than the Government having a clear, coherent and credible plan for its fiscal and economic policies.
    At present, it does not really seem to have that”.

    It seems
    like it is a series of sticking plasters on a wound that needs better medical intervention,
    at present it is ........ do this ... fine for the moment then is not the answer so lets try this ... after a while its well that didnt work so lets try this!
    Downfall is each time it exasperates the problem via cost [ more needs borrowing ... the labour historical way ]

    By the time Reform take over .gov it will need a period of intense "belt tightening" was going to use AUSTERITY, but a lot of peoplke might not understand what that means....lol!!!!
    SO AFTER 5 years of them and no labour party so to speak .. who gets the blame for taking on the baton for the following 5 years!

    Make no bones about it this .GOV is the death knell of the UK as we know it ... WE ARE A SERVICE CUSTOMER economy .. we dont have Steel mills MASSIVE factories to sell world wide .. our food will be expensive beyond basic's which will currently take up 2% of family to taking up 20% [ thats if you have a wage!! ] Rivers lakes reservoirs will be devoid of fish ......... woodlands decimated as people risk smokeless zone fires and burn wood to keep warm ........... rabbit/deer/pigeons/ possibly most reasonable sized birds absent ... rat infestation history as they will will mostly all have been eaten and come 2050 last few cows pigs and sheep are devoured ................
     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    When Reform take over I believe they will do the sensible things like slashing the crippling welfare costs and associated immigration burden that Labour are totally incapable of
    People will understand it’s going to be hard (again) but they will be given time

    As for the rest, it’s a scary vision of hell
     
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  4. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    people did not understand the 8 years of Austerity so what would make them appreciate it via Reform?
    Kemi Badenoch's speech .. has certainly set the cat amongst the pigeons .. some of those "pledges" are workable some would need time but when you sit back have a tea and biscuit and analyse it all .............well go back to July 3rd 2024 and wipe out all of the days until 6th October AND PUT IN A .GOV TODAY WITH THE MANIFEST of that presented and it is good news ..... a continuation oof July 3rd 2024 when EVERYTHING, even in the face of the Liebour party stirring up and supporting the unions to cause chaos was in a massive spiral upwards of inflation down/ interest down/ energy prices stable and reducing/ etc etc etc and a lot more positives...........

    OK reality time Reform have an awful lot of respect for the "ideals of it " and for NF but reality is they are on the same train as the Tories. Lib dems well they are stop gap fillers that cater for a very areas where most of their ideas are seemingly beneficial ....last election showed that . it was only because some 8 million didnt vote they got as many seats as they did [ there number of supporters were only a few thousand more than the previous 2010 GE ]
    BIGGEST PROBLEM is will Reform and Tory split votes allow others to cash in!

    Who ever gets in they will have the biggest ... B I G G E S T ...... Blackhole ever to deal with.............

    Nigh on possible to buy gold now [ average person ] a year or so ago I could buy gold at around £1500 - £1700 per ounce just tried to buy a couple ounces and they want £7690 [ or £98 per gram ] !!!!!!!!!
     
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    Turning to Nigel Farage and Reform UK, Ms Badenoch warned the Tories that they “can’t beat them simply by attacking them”.
    “As George Bernard Shaw said, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it!”


    Kemi Badenoch tears apart Shabana Mahmood with hilarious one word speech quip
    Taking on the Labour government, Ms Badenoch took particular aim at the new Home Secretary during her roaring speech at the Tory party conference.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2118717/kemi-badenoch-shabana-mahmood-speech?int_source=nba
     
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  6. realred1952

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    IT IS LUDICRUS , .......... another 1075 crossed on the 8th that is a bill to look forward to of close to a minimum of £80,000,000 pa in the pipeline for 9th/10th is another "few hundred" ........

    WHEN YOU THINK THE FRENCH ARE NOT PUTTING THEM UP IN HOTELS AND MAYBE ONLY SUPPLYING BASICS ........... WHEN WILL WE STOP. besides these boat people there are 1000's who make it each year via crossing in other transport forms .. lorries etc.. they dont publish these figures
     
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    It’s ok, we’ve sent 19 back !
    Ludicrous is the right word !!
    We won’t stop offering the carrot so they will continue to come in their tens of thousands The number of pro immigration people whenever there’s any anti immigration protest is depressing
    They should all be forced to take 3 immigrants home with them
     
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  8. realred1952

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    since liebour were gifted the .gov for 5 years 60,000 illegals have now crossed the channel .... THATS THE DECLARED NUMBER that are classed as small boat crossings, "the known??? " number! but does not account for the ones arriving by sea on on a myriad of smaller boats [ trawlers/yachts etc ] and dumped a few 100's of meters off the beach in the "dark" !!!! 60,000 in just 483 days thats around 125 every single day of their disasterous reign so far ... and it aint going to stop.

    Where are they housing them? 4,000 since they said reducing hotels!!! 1 SMALL HOTEL owner just stated his profit on allowing his hotels for immigrants has netted him £180,ooo,ooo profit in past year account period. If you are in a hotel for a period the laundry costs go down / the food is a small outgoing in relation to room cost [ average .gov pays is over £90 per night! ! ] and profit margin is around 80%............

    40 room hotel up for sale!!!! any takers for a consortium to buy it.... its £1.15m income from .gov circa £1.5m 2 year deal = £3 m then sell it for £1m or even £800.000 and make around £500,000 PROFIT....TIC
     
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  9. Angelicnumber16

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    Kier Starmer
    The best Prime Minister that Hamas ever had !
     
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  10. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    Keir Nohammad 2 Tier Granny Harmer?

    Seeing the destruction where are they going back to areas that housed a million people flattened ... no industry ... no farming [ blue print RESULT for 2 TIER! ] No real water supply No sanitation ........

    Question now is setting up a non terrorist /terrorist supporting .gov!!!!! Will the real Palestinians really say enough is enough by being ruled by terrorists [ look at Afganistan learned nothing terrorist dictatorship? ] after a semi successful attempt at democracy.

    Illegal boat crossings ............ probably according to rules 50 a week can be swapped? .......... well 60.000 / 50 = 23 years + to sort, and thats just those arrived since LIEBOUR.GOV took power. these 60,000 have paid close to £10,000,000 plus plus! to the gangs.
     
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    USA ambassador to Israel accuses British government of being delusional in their claims that they played any part in the peace plan.

    All Starmer and co have done is piss off Trump/Vance and tens of millions of others worldwide by his call to recognise Palestine, who are led by a group of terrorists, or doesn't 'never here Kier; realise that ?

    Palestine - a state that doesn’t exist.

    Meanwhile as part of the settlement, murderers, rapists and terrorists are all released back to Hamas who are the guilty party in all of this.
     
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  12. realred1952

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    he is far more delusional than delusional.......

    serious dissecting of every thing he 2 tier Granny Harmer has said and done over the past 5 years [ and , back 20 or more years ] shows the low calibre of the consquences of the mans actions, unable to have solid plans/ unable to guage his staff's quality/ needing to be honest is totally lacking/actions show he is very insecure .... unable to accept he is wrong ..........unable to admit others are right so goes into Jimmy opposite mode and poo pooo's them [ take the Rwanda scheme adopted by others and a success! Claiming credit for the endeavours of others ... REMEMBER one of the first "building a massive industrial area in the midlands" it was totally all funded by Tory.gov all planned by TORY.gov and last few bits of the jigsaw puzzle for it ran over in Liebours first couple of month's .............. take housing figures now IN FIRST YEAR .........AR claimed figures sorry latest shows that under Liebour new builds passed were massively down on previous years [ that is plans for future building ] 98% of all houses built were overflow from Tory.gov AND a large % is still as a result!!!!! [ remember 6 or month's in there was a admission and adjustment statement they might only achieve half the figure they bandied about ! ]

    When I did a stint as a sales training manager [ and was trained to do it /say it also! ] was repeat things clearly 3 times before people grasp it and maybe understand it! 2 TIER TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL repeat it 300 times and they might remember it........... REMEMBER he came out at PMQ's after a few weeks ..slagging tories and stating my dad was a tool maker... how many times since ? dozens but hey ho someone [ media ] researched it, he was BUT he owned the company and was very well off! dont hear his dad mentioned much nowadays!

    Waiting for the 14 years bit [ actually the bits that matters in this statement are in 3 /4 groupings ]
    first 8 years
    next 2 years
    next 2.5 years
    last 1 .5 years
    next post!
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    First 8 years was rectifying the Labour [ historic black hole left in 2020 ]
    FOLLOWING THE necessary AUSTERITY of the previous 8 years . came the 2 years in the £black and massive projects taken on and rebuilding Hospitals [ and a couple new ones still going on! ] more police ambulance/ NHS training ## note## road building / infra structure a sense of wellness in the air!

    the next 2.5 years disaster not of the .GOV making £trillions needed to fight Covid and energy disaster due to Putrid make no bones about it without austerity and ridding the black hole of 2010 we would not have survived as we did

    last 1.5 years rebirth a stabilization of the ship inflation dropping BOE RATE DROPPING [ continued for uo to 6 month's into Liebour.gov AS FIGURES BASED ON PAST .] ..... employment improving ...... illegal immigration dropping EVERYTHING LOOKING ROSY.......................

    Start of year 15 ..................... ENTER Liebour .gov with lies and fabrications .............

    ## NOTE ##
    It dawned on me my last visit to hospital and talking to the young nurses who had in the past 12 month's + passed into the realm of Nurse proper not just a trainee anymore.
    they had been training for up to 4 years. The interesting comment came from one who had just completed her year 4 " when I started my training in Jan 2020 there was lots of us, even more in 2022, but last year not so many!" ] the penny dropped

    2 TIER claims 1000's of extra staff under his watch....... he's been in .gov 15 month's and these 1000's started training 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 years before him!
     
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    Unemployment in the UK rose to 4.8 per cent in the three months to August, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) has said.
     
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    add the 2 tier conversion factor and that is created 4 .9% more jobs ....LOL
     
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