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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Ian Thumwood

    Ian Thumwood Well-Known Member

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    They eat biltong. If course they are different!
     
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    A bit like Peter Schmeichel and Solskjaer with their Scandicunian accents.
     
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    Not that I remember , no .
     
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    Jenrick and Philp today, came across as a pair of failed stand up comedians, with speeches laced with poor humour and racist rhetoric, and Jenrick spouting personal insults against Lammy and Starmer, and an attack on the judiciary, somewhat out of his remit. He should have been quoting some forward looking policies and raising the spirits of supporters, but failed to do that.
     
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  5. Ian Thumwood

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    The Os posts were most frustrating when they got into "Trump was right" mode. I see that some American Republicans are starting to think that Trump is a few vouchers short of a toaster. I just hope that people thinking about voting for Farage will not only cast their mind back to Liz Truss and pay attention to what is happening in the US.
     
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  6. Ian Thumwood

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    I see Simon Yexley-Lennon has been invited to Israel. I am surprised that he is well known so far afield but I think it indicative of just how poisonous the Right has become in all of it's permutations.
     
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  7. Ian Thumwood

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    I think the press will now attempt to bring down Jenrick. Just can see the fall out having some impact down the road. It will dent any future leadership bid.
     
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  8. thereisonlyoneno7

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    And saying I was part of the problem as I am half Indian and half Italian! Yep he actually said that!
     
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  9. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Just listening to the Jenrick comments and I agree and disagree with him. He has made a statement that is true (some areas have bad integration) in a way that only a privileged white person would!

    We are a diverse society and it needs to be multi cultural and integrated. However, only a privileged white person would use colour to explain it and not see what the issue is with his comments.
     
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    Exactly. Conflating Britishness and Whiteness is a horrible and clumsy way to say we all need to live together in harmony.
     
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  11. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Exactly. Listen to McCartney & Wonder.



     
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  12. Ian Thumwood

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    It was not a clever remark and looks even worse 6 months later insofar that it is yet another dig by a Jewish personality towards Asians. I guess it was not intended to sound like it came across but it is a far from helpful comment....especially as there are far fewer Jewish people in UK than Muslims. Not surprised why integration might not be an option when mainstream politicians make these comments. However, I think the audio clips release was done to cause maximum damage to Jenrick.

    Hopefully we will soon see the back of him.
     
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    Jenrick is still living in the era when The Mail, Express and Telegraph were Conservative kingmakers, so it's their headline writers he's trying to appeal to. Not sure they are that relevant any more.
     
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    Many years ago, I was invited for.weekend by girl I met on holiday to South Woodford. Upon returning to Liverpool where I loved at the time, a friend there commented on my "newly" acquired London accent as there the voice really "sings". It disappeared in days!
     
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  15. Ian Thumwood

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    I think people from Portsmouth try to speak with a faux London accent....it is because they live on an island and they are different, innit?
     
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    The best accent is Italians speaking Spanish!!
     
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  17. ImpSaint

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    Far from it, the "right wing press" are gullible Westminster bubblers and actually believe the guy is saying what he thinks because they have very short term memories. He was a "Tory wet" that saw an oppo to push himself up, resigning as Justice Minister "on principle" in order to push himself upward...........as well as a fair amount of local scandal in Newark. All forgotten though it seems!

    He's gone from "zero to hero" in a very short time despite never being any type of name even when in government. Probably due to that no-one knew who he was until he ran for leader that he is getting away with his fakery now!
     
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    I conflate British with accent. Or at least born British. I don't think most people are bothered at all with a sensible amount of immigration if people are also here to "integrate" and I don't mean fly union jacks whenever the King rides by, eat pie and chips and listen to Status Quo. Just not live in a parallel Britain by their own rules and insist on different treatment.

    While the joke is on the stupid racist that loves his curry I think the importing of different cultures is a great thing but it should be complimentary and to be shared by all and not the "this is my culture you're not invited" kind of cultural appropriation arguments we currently get from some on the left.

    Those voices of the left (not all of them by any means) seem to want to have a Britain of self segregated enclaves that are invite only rather than be additions to the existing culture for everyone to share and enjoy.
     
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    or Lloyd Grossman speaking American :D
     
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    Want to explain this?
     
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