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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    BTW its nowt to do with trent.

    Trent couldn't turn worth a damn.

    He'd wander in and not be availab3l for a pass either.

    Teams are able to press us with 3.

    Why? Cos thry have figured slot out. Narrow full backs can be cut off by one plauer two can also harry the cb. Just just the lane.

    Its really that simple. We are retreating back to our own box to create space for pmayers who are not actually.moving for a pass and all we are doing is giving it up closer to our own goal.

    Theres 3 cms there thst you want to move.

    But when a cb passes straight forward 10 yards to a guy coming straight back its easy follow tjst man up and be in his back as the ball arrives.

    Theres very little lateral.movement to make a new passing lane open going on.

    We leave it to a single cm dropping between two very wide cbs and then the two full backs are nowhere.

    We cant seek to see sides are packing thr middle knowing we will cought it up.

    We seem to not be willing to go wide quickly to a wide full back and go up the line.
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Problem is, you’re so often black and white with your statements that makes the rest no point reading.

    Saying it has nothing to do with TAA is just so blinkered.

    Whether he’s a major reason (which I think it is) or a minor reason amongst many others - just wholly dismissing the loss of the vice captain, local lad who also was the best footballing rb in The world and built up a relationship over 5 years with the best right winger in the world is just nonsense.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    If you love him so much go marry him lol.

    Seriously the issues are nowt to do with who is stood at rb.

    If you are getting walked through from front to back right down the middle then the rb isn't going to influence that.
     
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  4. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    We are too narrow and we don’t get behind enough. In defence, we are too narrow and allow everyone and their dog behind. Width is an issue.

    I actually think that we are really missing Diaz on the left.

    we have change the right side of defence, the left side of defence, the right and left side of the pitch and everything up front. Even our midfield three are recovering from injuries or being played out of position. We look completely disjointed at times.

    we also lost a key coach in the summer didn’t we? I’m not sure if that’s would be a big impact but our fitness looks off and perhaps the training routines have changed (I don’t know, just looking for possible root causes)

    Salah looks way off tbh but that might be that the new team is not compensating for his weaknesses just yet. Either way, it doesn’t look great for him.

    Just so many changes in one go was never going to work from day one. I do hope that Slot is brave enough to drop big players and go with what we know will work, easing players in, rather than be stubborn….the latter rarely works.
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    We haven't had a settled RB yet. Once that's established, we'll see how much we miss our previous RB because atm we definitely are missing him.

    I also think it's too soon to be saying drop Salah. If you've got a lot of new players to settle in, you don't do it by taking out the ones who know what they're doing. Granted Salah has been poor but he's always been the one most likely to score. I'd say him and Isak are getting less service than a 1 star hotel atm.
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    losing a rb who can open the play and force opponents backwards and gives you control over a football game is obviously going to have a huge impact on you defensively. If you can’t see that then pointless argument to have.
     
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  7. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    we’ll be able to loan him back soon <ok>
     
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  8. Gerrardsitchyear

    Gerrardsitchyear Well-Known Member

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    Losing both Trent AND Diaz also, as the long switch to Diaz released pressure and Diaz was able to hold the ball, get up field quickly and push the oppo back.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I get the point but do you get.mine about being negated by 3 people pressing?

    They are so narrow that just 3 can shut plus down and even if someone is a bit worried about a ball.over the top they can just let the front paluers do their thing.

    Salah is slowed up enough that even the vvd long ball is out the window as well.

    If you are that narrow that youve allowed just 3 people be an effective press then youve also allowed extra bodies to shut down the midfield zones where players might turn and play.

    The zones where trent might wander into are shut down.

    The space is wide but slot doesn't seem to see it.

    Watch our rb next game was it gets knocked about. Bradley jogs directly infield and one guy can cover konate and the passing lane to bradley. He doesn't have to close hard at konate as he can just shuffle and all thats on is the keeper or vvd.

    You'll then see a faster press onto vvd to prevent him doing anything

    You'll also see a fast closure on any cm dipping deep.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    If we stay wide theres space to advance the ball. We seem to want to draw sides on but see forwards stand about like statues in advanced areas then

    The runs wirtz makes are busy but useless as a 10 when he ends up in his own half under a press move as well.

    You want to get around and between thr lines.

    I want to see wirtz stay between thr opposition defense line and midfield and thats where we need to open gaps up to paly to him.
     
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  11. Tiresias

    Tiresias Well-Known Member

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    Slots got to start earning his crust now and get this team playing properly and in the right positions,otherwise he won't shake off the claim that it was Klopps team last season that won the league.
     
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  12. saintanton

    saintanton Old

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    We lost good players, but we brought in good players, and in theory the squad is just as strong.
    The outgoing players were familiar with the club and its system, the new ones are just taking their time to acclimatise.
    That's what I'm going with anyway.
     
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