Trump has set Sunday afternoon as the deadline for Hamas to show that they care more about live Palestinians than dead Jews.
Is that when nominations for a Nobel peace prize have to be submitted, because he has no other interest in stopping the wars.
I have always thought that there should be a united Ireland but still with close ties to the UK for some if not all of our joint history The troubles began from the Catholic minority asking the UK Government for protection from the Protestant majority who were getting more and more aggressive against the Catholics, the first action by the British troops was rescuing Catholics from a flood and they were very grateful to the soldiers Then the scum calling themselves the Provisional IRA started their terrorist campaign against the soldiers first and then the UK mainland, as in every type of this warfare the soldiers had no way of knowing who were the enemy and people get killed as a result of confusion Gery Adams and co should be rotting in jail with Blair, not in the NI parliament Cue left winger ****ers rushing in to protect him
I dont see myself as a Protestant but as C of E which has long proved itself to be a far more modern religion than the still ancient Catholic religion
I'm just CofE because it's what my parents enlightened me with from birth, although I'm not sure enlightened is the right word here. So I see it that a lot of people don't actually chose their religion it's something that is given you, passed on. So although I don't like my religion being attacked I'm not devout to it either. If I had been given a choice or chose myself to make a choice, not sure what I would be, probably buddist (**** off @Welshie). I'm sure I posted up some video not that long ago to do with a Buddist monk - can't remember what it was about now, mind over matter type of thing I think. Although I'm probably more **** of with your religious differences and arguments, learn to respect one another, no one and I mean no one is greater than another. I believe in a greater something, but no idea what that is, whatever created the universe and beyond I suppose, beam me up Scotty, but I don't accept that humans are at the centre of that - suppose consciousness could contradict me with that argument and I don't want to get deep right now. Let's see what Buddism says about that latter part: The eight consciousnesses in Buddhism, also known as the eight vijñānas, are a model of the mind in Mahayana Buddhism, consisting of the five sensory consciousnesses (sight, sound, smell, taste, touch), the sixth consciousness (mind), the seventh mano-consciousness (ego or defiled consciousness), and the eighth ālaya-consciousness (storehouse or root consciousness). This schema, particularly detailed in the Yogācāra school, provides a deeper understanding of mental processes by outlining the components that lead to our perception and interaction with the world.
Trump always wanted one thing the most: to be able to stand up and say he has got all the hostages out and ended the war. Hamas’ statement, in his view, gets to the verge of that moment. He’s framing it as Hamas signalling that it wants “lasting peace”. Then we have the extraordinary line, given that it comes from the president of the US, that Israel “must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza” so that the hostages can be released quickly. There is only a nod to how this will all be implemented: “We are already in discussions on details to be worked out”. But the details to be worked out remain crucial for the whole plan’s implementation. Hamas handing over all the living hostages means they lose nearly all their bargaining power, and that becomes important given what they’re saying in the final part of their statement - appearing to reject Trump’s call for their disarmament and exile as part of the package to end the war. They also want a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. We are at an absolutely critical moment and Trump wants it over the line immediately - but we’re still not there yet.
I think Hamas have put the ball back in Israel's court with this. If they'd flatly turned down the deal, Israel would have just unleashed on them. So by saying yes we'll release the hostages and we'll hand over power of Gaza it pretty much ticks the boxes Trump was looking for, even if it doesn't agree to all of the 20 points in the plan Trump wants to claim he's ended the war, so Benny is going to have to toe the line now.
'Many fear that widespread weapons, tensions between powerful families and Hamas's grip on power could spiral into scenes resembling civil war in a territory already gripped by displacement, destruction, and fear of further lawlessness. It is not just the extent of anger which Hamas faces from its many opponents whom it has humiliated during its 17 years in power which is thought to be a key factor driving the group to reject Donald Trump's ceasefire plan. It is also the fear of violent retribution, of being killed in the street, since the plan requires Hamas to completely disarm.' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jm2xlk1gdo I think this is why Hamas haven't agreed to the part to disarm. Because the reality on the ground in Gaza is that there are now various armed factions all vying for power and if they give up their arms they are sitting ducks Remember that Netanyahu has been funding and arming rival groups in Gaza, some of them with links to Islamic State, because he was desperate to see Hamas fall (even though he armed and funding them in the past) The pragmatic thing to do here is to have a staged disarmament and a weapons amnesty where every group involved in armed conflict, including Israel and the IDF, agree to a cessation of conflict. Only then can you begin to move forward with disarmament.
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Not sure Benny will toe the line tbh. Trump said no bombs and they bombed the Gaza strip again last night. He’ll still use the excuse that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.
This is also showing that Hamas are still targeting their own people accused of collaborating with Israel. Paranoid ****s remind me of the IRA doing that ****. I wonder how many incidents like this have been going on the killed by Israeli death list. The southern Gaza city of Khan Younis has witnessed one of the fiercest internal confrontations since the war began, between a Hamas security force and gunmen from the al-Mujaida clan - one of the largest families in the south. According to Hamas, its forces raided the neighbourhood to detain individuals accused of collaborating with Israel. Local accounts, however, described an armed assault by about 50 men riding in five pickup trucks, armed with assault rifles and a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) launcher, who stormed the al-Mujaida quarter and killed five members of the family. Armed relatives quickly fought back, sparking hours-long clashes with heavy gunfire. Reports circulating on social media – difficult to independently verify – claim that more than 11 Hamas members were killed, with some of their bodies dragged through the streets. Videos widely shared online, which the BBC has not verified, appear to show several bloodied bodies in military fatigues, alongside a voiceover alleging they belonged to Hamas's "Sahm Unit". Another clip captured bursts of gunfire and an RPG hitting a residential building in the neighbourhood. Local elders later intervened to mediate between the two sides, leading to an exchange of bodies aimed at containing the escalation. While the exact motives remain unclear, the incident has heightened anxiety among Palestinians.
I like looking at things from the reverse scenario and for me Hamas showed their intentions on the 7th Oct, the sheer brutality of it showed they would wipe every Israeli off the planet if given the chance. So why would you ever trust them. Even their Hamas leader before that date, said in a tv interview there would never be peace, not even with a two state solution. We've seen how they've paraded the hostages that they have released, it;s like a game to them, they don't care about life, they only care about their goals. I'm a peaceful man, I would never have gone on to do what Netty has done but I can see his perspective on what he see's as the problem. Does it make it right, no, but Hamas don't care about what's right and wrong either, they are happy for the people they claim to represent to suffer until they've achieved their goal. Even if Benny concedes, the killings will not stop, the prejudicies will not stop, not until Israel is wiped off the face of the planet as seems the intention by some. Why do we kid ourselves otherwise, even Jews in this country are being attacked. As a Jew explained the other day, I've voted in British government elections, but he's never voted in Israels so why is he targeted for hate. He has no control over what has gone on. As was said about the previous protest and today, it's not British, what's happened to respect in this country, rather than turning us into a country of hatred and the constant waving of Palestinian flags, any one else doing it would be deemed as a flag shagger or simple minded. Let's not forget the various terrorist attacks on British soil in the last 15 years either, if it's not Jews it's British soldiers being attacked, or kids at a music concert, well I'm sorry we need to face the elephant in the room, when is the next extremist going to rear it's head. 440 arrests today, look what we have turned into, it's ****ing disgraceful...if this guy was on an alternative march it would be getting called out all over the shop on here... please log in to view this image
You’ve hit the nail on the head with your comment about these continuing with their protests. It’s disrespectful and the police should have banned them this week. The reality is, a lot of these that have carried on with the protests are doing it to rub salt in the wounds and antagonise the Jewish community after that attack on the synagogue. It’s like they feel empowered now. It’s about time the police started treating these ****ers like the miners. No wonder that guy attacked the Jews. Constant hatred in this country is going to tip people over the edge to carry out this sort of attack. I wish our government would sit this one out on Israel/Palestine and make no comment on either side. Let the rest of the world sort it out.
Thankfully I don't have to put up with all this **** where I live, I think I've seen about one Palestinian poster in a house window, and that didn't stay long. My neighbour tried to talk about it the other day and I just instantly changed the topic (no idea what her view is) to Putin because I don't mind her, and I feared she might piss me off and I didn't want a not606 style argument in the street lol. As the Jewish guy said the other day, the war is two and a half thousand miles away, nothing to do with Jews in this country. Like you say Saf, let the rest of the world sort it out, ****ed off with us keep getting involved in all these wars, let someone else take the lead for a change and we certainly shouldn't be fighting this **** on British streets.
