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Daily Racing Thread Saturday 4th. October 2025

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Oct 3, 2025 at 7:48 AM.

  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Saturday's Meetings

    Longchamp
    Flat 6 Races 12:23-4:35p.m.
    Curragh
    Flat 8 Races 1:07-5:10p.m.
    Ascot
    Flat 6 Races 1:15-4:10p.m.
    Gowran Park
    N/H 8 Races 1:20-5:20p.m.
    Newmarket
    Flat 7 Races 1:30-5:00p.m.
    Redcar
    Flat 8 Races 1:36-5:37p.m.
    Wolverhampton(E)
    A/W 9 Races 4:20-8:30p.m.
    Newcastle(E)
    A/W 8 Races 4:40-8:15p.m.

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    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Just having a look at the Ascot card tomorrow. I'll be surprised if Night of Thunder doesn't grab the first so
    1 point each on Bright Thunder at 9/2 and 1 point on Nardra at 17/2
     
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    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    City of Troys half sister runs in 142 Curragh. Called Together Now, by Dubawi, I think we can safely say that with a 5lb claimer on first time out she hasn't inherited her brothers ability.

    One bet for me today Argentine Tango 320 Redcar. Filly has danced the dance this season and receiving weight off everything and a high draw she looks well in if she handles the ground and the season hasn't taken its toll.. 6lb better off with well touted Isle of Fernandez for 2 lengths...
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    3.40 Gowran Park Custom Taylor 100/30 BetFred

    Pretty short in what looks a competitive race but he looked well ahead of his handicap mark in his last 2 victories at the trip and his jockey's claim will help. An e/w saver of Eagles Reign who won a similar race this time last year.
     
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    Two bets at Ascot

    1.15-Flight @ 12-1...Win
    3.00-Kullazain @ 28-1...each way
     
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  6. QuarterMoonII

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    Today’s card at HQ makes little appeal with small fields except for the sales race cavalry charge and the feature Sun Chariot Stakes (2.40) looking like it will go to one of the two Group 1 winners in the field (Cinderella’s Dream and Fallen Angel) who head the market.

    Of much more interest with a view to Sunday’s action in Paris is the undercard at Longchamp, where the state of the ground will be key. The official (France Galop) going report is “good to soft” in English (3.4 on the penetrometer) and “good” (8 on the going stick); however, on Friday it was being reported as “very soft” (3.8 on the penetrometer) but also “good to soft” (7.2 on the going stick) according to Turf Trax.

    The rail has been moved out 15 metres for Saturday to preserve ground for Sunday. The Paris weather forecast gives possible showers on Saturday afternoon but dry on Sunday.

    There are five pattern races for thoroughbreds, the feature being the Prix de Royallieu (Group 1) at 4pm BST.

    The first is the Prix Chaudenay (12.33) over 3000m (14 furlongs). Seven are set to line up and the obvious form pick is the Joseph O’Brien runner Tennessee Stud; however, this is one favourite that I would not want to pile onto at 5/4. He had a warm up race in the Prix Niel after a long layoff and he is not guaranteed to stay. Of the home defence, Espoir Avenir beat Emit (Joseph’s other runner) with plenty to spare last time whilst Surabad has failed to live up to the early season promise and was only a moderate fourth in a Saint Cloud Listed race last time.

    The Group 1 Prix Du Cadran (12.58) sees six of the eight visiting from overseas but looks like another race to avoid for betting purposes. The 4000m (20 furlongs) stayers’ race has Andrew Balding’s eight year old Coltrane heading the betting but his best days are well behind him. He was fifth in the Doncaster Cup last time having won a four runner Listed race at Sandown the time before, his only win since the 2024 Sagaro Stakes.

    More to follow...
     
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  7. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    Watching the first two pattern races at Longchamp today, the ground does not look particularly soft and there does not appear to have been rain yet.

    The Group 2 Prix Daniel Wildenstein (3.25) contains a couple of Group 1 winners, with shock Sussex Stakes winner Qirat penalised because his win was this year whilst 2023 Poulains winner Marhaba Ya Sanafi avoids the extra 2 kilos but has only won a Group 3 race and a Listed race in the two years since and is unlikely to be a €116k spare for Tom Marquand. There is very little between many of these on official ratings but some of the outsiders are easily ruled out. Darius Cen won a Listed race in March but has only made the frame once since, a second in a conditions race at Chantilly. Joseph O’Brien’s Princess Child won a Tipperary Group 3 last time graduating from a handicap and whilst the yard is in great form, she might find one or two of these too good to complete the hat-trick. Blinkers are fitted to Zabiari, winner of the Group 3 Prix Bertrand du Breuil (beating Marhaba Ya Sanafi a neck) but well beaten in the Prix Jacques le Marois, where he finished a neck ahead of Ridari, who disappointed when fancied in the Poulains and the Prix Du Jockey Club. Dreamliner has progressed with each of his last three victories, starting in a small conditions race, following up in a Listed race and last time collecting the Group 3 Prix Quincey; and he may be the best chance of a three year old winning. Ed Dunlop’s Skukuza was third in the Strensall Stakes beaten less than a length with the Cambridgeshire winner Boiling Point in second and followed that with a fair fourth in a Group 2 at Leopardstown so he deserves his place in this similar type of event. That leaves the two principals in the betting: Quddwah was only sixth in the Prix Du Moulin over course and distance but won the Prix Messidor on his penultimate start and was a Group 2 winner last term; however, ahead of him in fourth in the Moulin was Andre Fabre’s four year old ALCANTOR, beaten barely a length, reversing the Prix Messidor form (fourth); and he was third in this race last term before winning a Group 3 at Saint Cloud.

    Of the twelve listed for the Group 1 Prix de Royallieu (4.00) there looks to be at least four that are just going in the hope of sneaking some black type. The cynic in me thinks that Island Hopping is here today as a pacemaker, a task that she has fulfilled before, notably in the Ribblesdale. Kathina started the season winning a conditions race at Fontainebleau but has not troubled the judge since, finishing fourth in a Listed race over course and distance last time. Bibbiena won a Listed race over course and distance on her penultimate start (Kathina fourth) but was only third in the Group 2 race won by Latakia last time. Four year old Latakia has only raced four times but won three of them, albeit beating the same horse in the last two; and that Group 2 was a Group 2 in name only. Rabbit’s Foot won her first two races but was third in a Group 3 race at Deauville when last seen with Consent ahead in second. Kiamba was sixth in that Deauville heat and her only career win was a Listed race at this track over two furlongs less. Indalimos won that Prix Lady O’Reilly by two and a half lengths on only her fourth start and with progress expected has to hold a live chance today. Shaha has not been seen since she was thrashed at Haydock by Estrange but prior to that won a Listed race at Goodwood, so she clearly goes well fresh. Survie was runner-up in the 2024 Prix de Diane and was seventh in last year’s Arc but her owners took her out of that on Monday. She was fourth in the Prix Vermeille but there does not seem to be any reason why she should reverse running with the third that day, Bedtime Story, over an extra two furlongs. After chasing home Indalimos, Consent was second in the Park Hill Stakes over this trip beaten by the front running SANTORINI STAR who fought back having been headed at the distance. I think William Haggas can win this for the third time in recent years if Tom Marquand can get the fractions right (and/or avoid getting into a battle with Island Hopping) and Indalimos has not improved markedly.

    If the race for the females looked competitive, the following Prix Dollar (4.35) looks almost like a nine runner greyhound race! Jenilat Bright ran twice in Listed races in August and was last and a well beaten fourth so is easily dismissed here. Damysus was second in the Dante, last in the Derby and won a Listed race with something to spare last time and should run well. Rashabar skipped the Guineas and was only fourth in the Irish equivalent. He has been runner-up at around this trip the last twice, most recently beaten by Japan’s Alohi Alii in the Prix Guillaume d’Ornano with subsequent Prix Niel winner Cualificar third. Bay City Roller has yet to win this term, was only sixth in the Group 2 York Stakes but was just touched off in the Prix Niel (Swagman seventh) and now drops back to this metric ten furlongs. Swagman had not been seen since the Sandown Classic Trial but will the shorter trip see him reverse form with George Scott’s colt? King Of Cities won the Strensall Stakes last time beating the subsequent Cambridgeshire winner to open his 2025 account; however, there are others here that make more appeal. Uthred has won three of his five starts but probably his career best effort was last time in the Group 3 Prix d’Orange beaten less than two lengths fourth by the Japanese Derby winner. Andre Fabre runs two: 2024 Prix Eugene Adam winner Bright Picture won his only start this term, a Clairefontaine conditions race two months ago but appears to be the second string to FIRST LOOK, winner of a Clairefontaine Listed race on his penultimate start and victorious over Goliath in a four runner Group 3 race at Deauville last time that on paper looks the pick of recent form in the race. So crazy as it may seem, I am going with the horse that was second last in this last year, a season in which he was also second in the Prix Du Jockey Club, to give me a Fabre Saturday double.
     
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  8. TIGERSCAVE

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    You're in form...
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    A couple of non-runners but he was heavily backed into 6/4 and never saw a rival, winning as he liked by 10 lengths. 4 wiiners in the last 5 days <cheers> it's can only go down hill now
     
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  10. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This is getting annoying Oddy <laugh> What's that, 5 on the trot. I pick 2 in one race and neither won. Bright Thunder got backed into 13/8 so got good value there <doh>. Had a good go but jockey just couldn't cajole her to put her head in front
     
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