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2025/2026 Season

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by RiverEndRick, May 3, 2025.

  1. Robbie BB

    Robbie BB Well-Known Member

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    On 17th September 2018, after 7 games, we had the same number of points as now, i.e. 8 points. A week later, having played 9 games, we were 6 points better off, with 14 points and 8th in the table. From game 8 onwards, until beaten by Derby in that memorable game at Carrow Road at the end of December, we lost only once, 0:1 to Stoke City; that was game 12, on 6th October.
    Game 7, a 1:0 win over 'Boro at Carrow Road, was the game Farkeball really clicked; we never looked back after that.

    [Edit] Those first 7 matches in 2018--19 included games against WBA (lost 3:4), Sheffield Utd (lost 2:1), Leeds (lost 0:3) and Ipswich (drawn 1:1). We drew with Birmingham, and beat Preston and 'Boro.
     
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  2. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    Chris Sutton's take on the present situation:

    "This feels like the start of a big few days for Norwich City, but Sunday's East Anglian derby should not be judgement day for Liam Manning's tenure as head coach. Manning has copped all sorts of flak for Norwich's sluggish start to the season, poor performances and lack of progress as a team - but what did people expect after 12 new signings, a whole new coaching team and all the change the club has witnessed over the past 18 months? He is the latest of four head coaches who have, so far, failed to ignite Norwich. Dean Smith was the first, David Wagner did okay, but it never really worked for him, and Johannes Hoff Thorup was sacked eight months into a long-term project. Manning is the latest, and you look at his CV, pedigree and reputation in the game, he is an excellent coach."

    https://www.pinkun.com/sport/interviews/25505593.sutton-liam-manning-not-another-city-fall-guy/
     
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  3. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    On top of this you must also consider that Farke had not exactly pulled up tree's in the previous season. There was plenty of grumbling going on as we drew that Ipswich game, that draw may well have saved his job, a loss there could have turned the fans and the board.
    I am disappointed in the current form and the quality of the football, but there is no way we can reasonably sack him any time soon.

    Even if it is all a bit demoralising ATM!

    Bah!
     
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  4. Canary Rob

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    I’d reiterate, though, that with Farke the green shoots were really clear. We were playing some good football. There was reason to be optimistic even while complaints were legitimate.

    I see no reason based on what we have seen on the pitch to be optimistic with Manning I’m afraid.
     
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  5. Robbie BB

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    Á propos of Knapper's declaration on taking over that he likes a team that "dominates with the ball", he can't be very happy about these minute-by-minute SofaScore graphics from the Coventry and Stoke games. The bars represent intensity of pressure, a measure of a team's dominance at any given time, defined by a range of metrics, i.e. not simply possession (N.B. we are the "blue" away team, not the "green" home team):

    Coventry City 1:1 Norwich City

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    Stoke City 1:1 Norwich City

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  6. SuffolkCanary

    SuffolkCanary Well-Known Member

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    Ok but Farke had already been given half a season previous to that slow start. Similar to now he had a heavy squad turnover but he was at least accustomed with half the squad
     
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    You are concentrating on just results. In the slow periods under Farke and Thorup there were signs of good football and hope for improved performances and results. Under Manning the performances have gone from poor to very poor to, in the word of a loyal away supporter, diabolical. How long can we be expected to wait for the 'green shoots' let alone improved performances and results?
     
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  8. General Melchett

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    I remember much of the first Farke season, we looked very like we do now, minimal goal threat, lots of lateral passing. I remember looking at his record prior to Norwich and there were very few goals, he looked a manager who could defend but little idea on attack. Clearly with time that was proved wrong.
    From Manning perspective if the guys had brought their shooting boots tonight this could very well been a win. As poorly as we have played against a WBA team who have showed zero ambition we could easily won if the players weren't so hopeless infront of goal. Manning needs more time.
     
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  9. carrowcanario

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    I agree that he should have more time and if the players had their scoring boots on then we could have won that, however I do question why we didn't go 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 towards then end.
     
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  10. SuffolkCanary

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    We were essentially 4-2-2-2 at the end, arguably more attacking with Sargent, Crnac, Makama and Jurasek on the pitch. Probably our most attacking fit players
     
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  11. RiverEndRick

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    Whereas West Brom were in a 5-4-1 formation throughout the second half in which they had 1 shot on a breakaway. Their keeper kept us out but this was a much better performance. Mattsson had another good game and Mahovo looked sharp when he came on, particularly with that lovely cross which nearly produced a goal. Our pressing was also better but we need to quicken our attacking play more. When we did manage that even their 9 man low block struggled at times.
     
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  12. carrowcanario

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    Yes but Makama was playing out wide on the right. With his attributes I think he should have been the point.
     
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