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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 24th September)

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  1. ellandback

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    Good Morning. It's Wednesday 24th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    Tyler Adams set for hostile reception

    Saturday's clash between Leeds and Bournemouth carries an undeniable edge, a potential grudge match fueled by past departures and lingering resentment. The return of Tyler Adams to Elland Road will undoubtedly stir emotions. The US international's decision to leave Leeds following their relegation in the summer of 2023 was a bitter pill for many fans to swallow.

    This feeling is compounded by the subsequent departure of Luis Sinisterra to Bournemouth just a year later. Furthermore, Leeds were agonisingly close to signing Max Aarons, who had even begun his medical at Thorp Arch, only for Bournemouth to swoop in and persuade him to travel down to the South Coast. Of the trio, it's Adams who will be on the pitch against his former club, while Sinisterra and Aarons are currently plying their trade elsewhere on loan.

    Victory over Spurs, Wolves and Brighton have elevate the Cherries to joint second in the table; with their only loss of their campaign coming at Anfield in a six goal thriller on the opening day of the season. Leeds, coming off a morale-boosting 3-1 win at Wolves, will be eager to equally eager to protect their unbeaten home record. However, the question remains: how realistic is it to expect them to overcome Andoni Iraola's Bournemouth now that they have found their stride?

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    Leeds and Everton reached out of court PSR settlement


    Leeds United and Everton have quietly concluded an out‑of‑court settlement over the Toffee's PSR breach relating to their 2021‑22 season. In November  2023 an independent commission found Everton guilty of exceeding the three‑year loss ceiling of £105 million by roughly £19.5 million, and the club was initially docked ten points – a sanction later trimmed to six on appeal.

    The penalty prompted a wave of potential legal challenges from clubs that believed they had been denied earnings as a result. Burnley, which finished two places and four points behind Everton, launched proceedings, while Leeds United – narrowly missing safety by a single point and one league position – weighed a similar claim. Leicester City, Southampton and Nottingham Forest also signalled interest.

    Sources close to Elland Road, speaking on condition of anonymity, say Leeds concluded that its case lacked sufficient strength to survive a courtroom test, prompting both parties to reach a confidential agreement earlier this year and draw a clean line under the dispute. The exact financial terms remain undisclosed, but Premier League merit‑payment tables show that 17th‑place Leeds received £2,057,220 less than 16th‑place Everton for 2021‑22.

    A second PSR breach by Everton in 2022‑23 occurred after Leeds’s relegation, leaving the Yorkshire club without a viable claim. Both clubs declined to comment on the settlement.

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  2. Doc

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    PSR is a joke
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

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    Morning chaps. Looking forward to the Bournemouth test on Saturday Fair to say if we get a result, we can be hopeful of giving a lot of teams a right good game. I don't give a damn about anyone who's left the club for whatever reason. Its all part and parcel of the modern game
     
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  4. milkyboy

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    Quite frequently in life, well intentioned ideas that look good on paper are rendered farcical in practice.... in real world conditions where the flaws seem obvious with the benefit of hindsight. I can't say for sure that PSR was either well-intentioned or good on paper... but as soon as you set rules and guidelines for anything, people do their level best to find loopholes, and work every angle to their advantage.

    If you're going to do this sort of thing you need to have thought of ALL the possible get arounds, keep the premise as simple as possible so there's no grey areas that are open to interpretation, have clear penalties that are sufficient to stop it in the first place... and the balls to carry them through. In a world governed by moneymen and lawyers, I'd say that's nigh on impossible. Especially in a global business with diluted ownership and collusion amongst clubs.
     
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    I wonder over a period of a few seasons will it begin to iron itself out as teams have to start replacing the likes of Haaland. Villa certainly feeling the pinch big time. Maybe if we could hang on two or three seasons we might start closing the gap on quite a few clubs. Probably wishful thinking
     
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    Another big test... aren't they all. Bournemouth the name says... this is a fixture we should be targeting a win from. Sadly, Bournemouth the team are annoyingly good. I see this as a really difficult fixture, but hopefully we come into it with confidence high.

    Leeds approached Iraola to replace Marsch, he would have been a great choice as his approach suits the same kind of playing staff we had at the time - and he likes the organised chaos of an aggressive press. He's proved his approach can work in the PL - he's done a great job at Bournemouth. He played under Bielsa and took a lot, but not all, into his playing style.

    In my view we struggle when sides press us high, Bournemouth are really good at creating chances from winning possession back. Interestingly, so have we been this year. Leeds and Bournemouth are the top 2 sides for defensive SCA (shot creating actions dontcha know), ie defensive action leading to a chance.

    In short i think Bournemouth are all wrong for us and this may be a game where we're more effective when they have the ball. Good test for Farke.
     
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    Hope you're right, it certainly seems like a bunch of clubs are taking the potential consequences seriously which is something... just feels like the big clubs have walked all over it. I think we could close the gap on the 'midtable' clubs in a few seasons.. problem for midtable clubs is you're only one one bad season from disaster.
     
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    Morning all. As Simon Jordan says, PSR may eventually be the thing that kills the success of the premier league as the most watched league in the world as it is designed to stifle competition and keep the big boys rewarded. Once the competitive nature of the division is over, as the other big European leagues have found, interest wanes and the money stops rolling in. It’s why the likes of Madrid wanted the super league.
    As for Bournemouth, I didn’t realise they were going so well, might have to rethink my prediction on the correct score/scorer thread <cheers>
     
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  9. milkyboy

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    When we beat them 3-0 we’ll go above them :biggrin:
     
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    The massive elephant in the room has always been the fact that Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea had already broken the bank buying up all the best talent. Things changed when the Arabs bought Man City as it meant a new kid on the block competing with them and buying up the best players. Mancini won the league and the other top clubs moaned City were cheating (Hence the 154 charges still in play) and then Newcastle were bought by even richer Arabs and the goalposts got moved again. The EPL is now an established 17 club private members club with 3 guests who are hamstrung and get penalised to ensure they cannot compete on a level,playing field.
     
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    Scum must be doubly pissed off as despite all the rule fiddling they are firmly one of the rest of us and unlikely to ever rise to their former lofty position they bought
     
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    It does make me laugh, these players did this and that and there is hate filled venom thrown at them for their lack of loyalty. We get promoted those same fans basically calling for a full overall to the majority of the first 11, get them out and better in.
     
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    Yeh it’s a nonsense - the whole ‘rat’ thing was a nonsense. Fans need to get their heads round the fact that it’s a job to players.

    Adam’s did well for us I thought!
     
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    Bang on the money.
     
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    Yeah. It’s only been a job to players since the Bosman ruling and the introduction of the super agents. Pl players not interested in meeting fans after matches and that’s fine. I don’t hate any ex player unlike some. I just don’t have an ounce of Interest either way once they’re finished wearing the Leeds shirt. Odd exception being Rapha who I love watching him play as he’s clearly world class
     
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    I'm not bothered by most of the players leaving.

    I'll be honest. Gnonto refusing to play for Leeds is massively disrespectful. Not sure he has apologised to the fans yet either. He did sack his agent and sign a new contract so ....meh. I've let it go.

    Wober was a bad one. Said he would stay, even made captain and then ****ed off. I'd rather they just be honest. That was a bit ratty.
     
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    Evening everyone
     
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