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Election 2024

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Jan 18, 2024.

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

  1. Give Keir a dinghy

    36.8%
  2. The Afghans are coming

    21.1%
  3. Duggie wants his winter fuel payment back

    26.3%
  4. BobbyD to take over

    42.1%
  5. Tax, tax, tax and more ****ing tax coming

    15.8%
  6. We want Farage...

    10.5%
  7. Stop the triple lock

    21.1%
  8. Leave my pension alone

    26.3%
  9. brb is **** at polls

    42.1%
  10. Sucky is an Afghan

    63.2%
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  1. brb

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    or you encourage your population to have more kids.
     
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  2. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Add to that, Trump has got the absolute fruit loop RFK as health secretary
     
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    You can do that, but I guess you'd have to incentivise it by offering more child benefit or having certain tax breaks for extra children. Even then though, you're not going to see the benefits to the workforce and the economy for around 20 years or so.

    Selective immigration is a fairly immediate fix.
     
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    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I realised today that the oldest chap on here is Duggie, he's still younger than Trump and seems way more clued up on things.

    It's absolutely bonkers that such a person is actually running a super power.
     
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  5. brb

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    Very short sighted view, because unless you deal with child birth rates now, you will still have the problem in 20 years time. We've had decades to monitor and deal with this.
     
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  6. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Or have less old gits living until they’re 95
     
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    To be expected when everyone wants a nanny state, it means everyone is going to live longer, it's not like they wouldn't have known this and the cost of care. Probably why the world wants a war, so it can bomb a few care homes, after the Tories failed during covid to wipe them all out.
     
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    You probably have to do both tbh. But for the immediate term, you’re not going to plug the workforce gap without immigration

    We’re seeing the same thing from Brexit. We opted out of free movement and then discovered that we had a shortfall in lots of manual and low paid sectors that were traditionally filled by workers from the EU. Even the skilled worker visa didn’t really address it, because many of those jobs didn’t qualify for the scheme.

    We’ve got 30k asylum seekers sitting in hotels which is making the flag shaggers go mental. We could give them visas and sort this nonsense out :bandit:
     
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    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    In all seriousness, as one old git to another, here’s how I see the problem; every hard working person looks forward to putting their feet up for a few years at the end of their/our lives. And that’s great, if you’re lucky enough to get that far in life. But because we are living longer and longer, we inevitably become a burden on society, then in the last few years we’re kept going by medical science long past the point where we were ever meant to be alive. To address this problem, governments throughout the developed world are raising the pension age beyond the point where it is reasonable to expect people to go on working. So we’re old and knackered before we ever get to retirement, which when we finally get there we can’t enjoy. Far better imo to retire at 60 (65 at the oldest) but forego the help of medicine to extend old age indefinitely. The Welfare State, or Nanny State as you call it, was supposed to care for us from the cradle to the grave, and maybe it still could, if only we were less keen on avoiding the grave. I’m not suggesting euthanasia btw; I’m suggesting reducing access to medicine which artificially prolongs life beyond a certain point.
     
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  10. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    So was chemtrails
     
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    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I've always thought that but a bit of a minefield in deciding the cut off points/criteria

    But I've always thought that if someone in their 80s has had multiple strokes, beat cancer once already and then is diagnosed again and this time it's terminal. Then we shouldn't be spending hundreds of thousands of pounds to potentially give that person an extra 6 months of 'life'.

    As I say though, a ****ing minefield.
     
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  12. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    we could get in to a looooong conversation about chemtrials if you like lol

    But in summary, passenger jets leaving contrails aren’t it.

    And that’s what I see a lot of people losing their minds over.
     
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    Doctors take the hypocratic oath to preserve life. But when you speak to them on a personal level, loads of them see the futility in trying to keep people alive who have very little quality of life
     
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    Not right now mate I just dont have the time
     
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    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    How many Dr's have you spoken to on a personal level then bro?

    Www.surveybypinkie.gov
     
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    And it will probably never happen anyway, because old people are far more likely to vote than younger people.

    But if it did, yeah it’s a minefield; I’d draw a distinction between medicine designed to keep someone comfortable, and medicine designed to keep them alive, especially when bedbound and incontinent.
     
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    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    BBC turned off comments.

     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Isnt Tylenol just a brand name for Paracetamol. It’s a generic now so cost pennies and is made all over the world.

    I would think JFK Jnr has been in his ear with some crackpot nonsense and he sees it as a way to cover up the calls to release the Epstein files. See Prince Andrew’s ex wife is tied into this somehow too.

    The net is closing on more and more pervs.
     
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    I completely agree with you mate, I'm sure you already know that.
     
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