Interested in what the Farage and Irish Lennon supporters think of this report from The Times. Fake news? Or the truth? Quotes sources of opinion and actual statistics https://www.instagram.com/reel/DObsRoMjzGZ/?igsh=MXNlbGdjcHQ0YmpxMw==
A credible chance of winning depends on who votes for them. Reform are effectively the right wing of the Tories, has many ex members. Farage used to be in them, wanted to lead them, went to Eton. Has similar policies. I thought you wanted something different?
Parliament is full of lawyers. But it doesn't matter. Unless we resile from the ECHR, and from the UN conventions, which are seventy and fifty odd years old by the way, and not designed for today's world at all, then nothing can be done. Believe me now, other countries are thinking of doing this already. If we want this sorting out, or a start at sorting it out, then those steps have to be taken, and then the PM, whoever happens to be in what is increasingly resembling a ceremonial chair, will have to accept being in the naughty corner instead of travelling abroad for a nice pat on the back now and again.
I 100% agree with Labour cutting disability payments. The system is being exploited by people who are pretending to have mental and physical illness, ripping off the tax payer. There are of course genuine disabled people that need help and I’m 100% behind that. But it needs to be looked at and dealt with, because the system is far too easy to milk, and the government know it.
I don’t actually care for any of the parties. In the last election I didn’t vote, I consider them all the same. I think farage will win, that doesn’t mean I’ll vote for him. I want change, do I think we will get it? Highly, highly unlikely.
So you support some Labour policies then. What about pensions? The biggest cost, that needs taxation. Are you having none of it or are you getting those so rich they don’t need it to be pay for our vulnerable.
I hate the idea of taxing pensions and inheritance. Pensioners have already been taxed all of their working life and now we want to carry on taxing them until they’re dead? Inheritance tax is a joke. People have worked their whole life and paid their taxes on that money they’re passing on. No government should have the right to tax it again.
I think if people genuinely want change they should vote for someone who changes things. Tax cuts to the rich isn’t it. It’s a Tory way of thinking. Trickle down. It isn’t new. Austerity isn’t new. Austerity led to lawlessness - less police, less preventative services. You can’t say law and order and cut services . Every party in their own way sees managing migration as a priority. Some through getting a legal system back, some through pretending they’ll use the navy. I’d say the Greens are the most radical. Remains to be seen if i vote for them next time but they offer something different more than any party. I don’t think people do really want change, they just believe a known hustler from Eton.
Yeah if I see a policy I agree with, I’ll support it, why wouldn’t I? The problem is with Labour, like most political parties, they lie about their policies to gain votes. So it’s actually hard to support any policy, because they often turn out to be lies. Regarding the pensions, I don’t know enough about them to give you a credible opinion.
There is something in power being more local. But regions such as ours are not without some economic dependence on central government. But it comes down to this. It always comes down to this. Governments do not have any money, save what they extract from people or businesses. Our credit card is near to maxed out, if in fact it isnt, and no one wants to accept this fact. It's an ugly fact, but it's a fact. £450bn was borrowed and spent inside a year to keep people sitting at home. Another £60bn on fuel subsidies after Putin went mad. Everyone seemingly agreed this was good money spent, some wanted more, some always want more. The UK borrowed £150bn last year. Over £100bn was spent on interest payments of previous debts, more than education and defence combined. Just on interest payments! Our national debt is roughly £2.8trn. On top of that, there is a humungus time bomb of public sector pensions waiting to blow off, another £2trn+ there. Clearly, this can never be afforded, there just won't be the money, no one will lend it. It's going to go pop sooner or later, probably sooner unless the spending is reigned in. Anyone can see that. But who will vote for it?
The issue with pensions is exactly what you hate. There are many old people who could survive off less, many who couldn’t. My old dad said last he didn’t need free bus travel while he could drive and would be happy to have had the money spent elsewhere. He said that his house is warm so didn’t need the winter allowance, that he’d rather it was spent on policies that help his grandkids. But he also said a lot of old people vote. So it won’t change. Those who need it should absolutely be looked after whatever the age - we should be a civilised country - but it’s weaponised in politics discussing the old because of the intention to have power. If we are going to take our responsibility seriously we need cash out of people’s assets so everyone can have assets - like a stable home.
If you look at number 2 in here https://taxjustice.net/2024/08/19/wiki-how-to-tax-the-superrich-with-pictures/
The present lot are an absolute disgrace. We don’t live in a democracy, we live in a racket – this chancer or that one, that’s not choice, thats not democracy, that’s complete and utter bollocks! I honestly think we need to pay MPs way more – but corruption of any kind, which should be fiercely investigated at all times, should mean 20 years prison, no exceptions.
https://youtube.com/shorts/GSwFZqHtOX0?si=1Vc4h19laNNl-Jdw Or here. Essentially the wealthiest own things that make money but limit cash and invest in more things. It’s taking money from the state as well as us. We need to tax their things to free up money for the state to invest in us. Not just tax what they leave spare.
So you like the idea of taxing things that people own. So essentially you won’t own the asset, because if you fail to pay the tax, the government will take the asset from you. IMO it’s definitely communism, and bordering on extortion. And it’s another policy that punishes success. The left have a very unhealthy habit of vilifying successful people. If you paint success as a bad thing, it discourages people to start businesses and create wealth and jobs. The more successful people you have in your country, the better your country is. Surely you wouldn’t want to put successful people off investing in your country, paying taxes in your country?
That’s just taking the piss. They’d stop investing at that point. Then we’ll get nothing from them and the economy would decline.
In order of corruption I’d argue this order 1 Reform 2 Tories 3 Labour By that I mean changing policies in return for party donations. Without tackling the ‘donations for policy’ issue and making it fair and equal we will continue to have corporations and the rich hassling parties for favours. Even many Reform members and some of their elected members think the rich should pay more but it’s what pays for Reform so in return for thanks they get a tax break policy. Labour watered down the non dom issue for the same reason. Many more examples.
