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What 'Fans' want.

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by TopBunk, Sep 2, 2025.

  1. TopBunk

    TopBunk Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me after reading various sites that what fans are after is the following.

    An expressive and creative team that is defensively solid, plays attacking football whilst leaving no holes at the back.

    A club that brings in new players to improve the team but doesn't let players leave.

    To sign home grown local Foreign players

    A Manager that plays attacking football and will alter his tactics every ten minutes.

    Build a team for the Premier league whilst standing by the players that got promotion from league one.

    Bring in young players but not give them time to settle in they need to perform immediately.

    The club needs to let the fans in on every decision made about everything.

    To follow the town up or down whilst having constant success.
     
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  2. Nuggets

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    It might sound simplistic, but what fans ultimately want is to win games. Most supporters will forgive or overlook a lot of their preferences or principles as long as the club is winning week-to-week.

    If we get automatic promotion this season, then any perceived negative moves in this window - such as selling off pretty much all the promotion-winning squad from two years ago - will have been forgiven or at least understood. McKenna and the team would’ve proven the squad has been strengthened. Particularly if that team goes on to be more competitive in the Premier League. But if we continue to struggle and underperform, then supporters will naturally wonder “what might have been” had we focused more on retaining the likes of Woolfenden, Burgess, Morsy, Luongo, Broadhead, and Chaplin (not counting Tuanzebe, Hutchinson, and Delap who had performed well enough to get Premier League moves). As a fanbase, we went over two decades without a promotion. That squad achieved two promotions in a row (due to various factors of course, including most notably McKenna), so they’re naturally going to be close to our hearts. By moving so many of them on so quickly, it either looks like ruthless pragmatism or a misguided complacency. Time will tell.

    Even the season we went up two years ago might’ve turned a bit sour had we failed to get promotion. We might’ve focused on the poor defensive statistics. We might’ve bemoaned a lack of academy players in the first team squad. We might’ve questioned the lack of summer signings.

    If we had beaten Preston and Sheffield Wednesday in recent weeks, I think fans would’ve been more understanding of letting Woolfenden and Chaplin go. With only one league win in the 2025 calendar year, I don’t blame some supporters for losing a little bit of patience and goodwill towards the club and McKenna. So far this season, I haven’t seen a clear sign of what our new identity is and how this undoubtedly talented squad is going to go about winning games. Woolfenden and Chaplin are both entitled to expect first team football in this division. But it’s now on these new players signed this summer to prove they are better than the players we’ve let go.
     
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  3. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    It definitely isn’t about only winning games. The fans were fully supportive in the first League One season - no glamour, no promotion - because the positive progression and growth and togetherness was clear.

    Ultimately we want the stars of the day at Portman Road and to be competing regularly in the European competitions. We want to win the East Anglian derbies and put some daylight back in the stats for the bragging rights.

    We also know there are other clubs with similar resources and ambitions to us and I think that’s probably the realisation that has just bitten Mark Ashton on the arse. This time last year he said that we had built a rocket ship. Must have been one of Elon Musk’s Space X prototypes that come back down and explode on impact.
     
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  4. Bigal2

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    I can’t speak for other fans but what I want is for us to play decent, progressive,attacking football,win more games than we lose so that we are competitive in whatever division we’re in, and for the players and management to show commitment and desire to do their best for our great Club.
     
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  5. Evesham

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    What this fan doesn't want is these international breaks.
    More coming up in October and November.
     
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  6. ristac

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    Morning all, I hope you are all well

    We have some injuries that will hopefully be cleared up within the next couple of weeks so for a change, I am happy with the International break
     
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  7. TopBunk

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    International football should be knocked on the head, its irrelevant and pointless.
     
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  8. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    It is getting more and more irrelevant with the Nations League, expansion of the World Cup, corruption and host choices. Same with the Europa Conference League. Same with having six English teams in the Champions League (only one side per season is the champion!). Same with VAR. Same with automatic red cards for dodgy tackles and fisticuffs. Same with the ball being allowed to move backward from kick off.

    Endless watering down of the game.
     
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  9. Mike_Holmes1990

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    Sometimes (particularly when watching England) I wonder if I actually enjoy watching the professional game anymore.

    And I wonder how much enjoyment the players get from standing still and passing the ball slowly backwards.
     
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    I've got less and less fussed about watching England play as the years go by.
     
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    Afternoon, I seem to remember quite a few of your fans blaming the international break for your failure to go up the other season.
     
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    We were on a roll that season and a few key players came back injured. I’d prefer a break over having to play with depleted squads
     
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    For me it's more than winning games, it's about identity. The double promotion winning team we saw that identity, that character and the whole club coming together. They got us to the promised land as one of the most successful teams in our history and then were pretty harshly dumped out of the team and replaced by multimillion pound players who helped us on our way to the worst season in our history (points wise).

    Those 2 seasons were magical, last season was great to see the PL but it confirmed a lot of my fears that the top of football has lost its soul and we're now a part of that.
     
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    The PL has become a right cesspit fueled by agents and money, the best thing that could happen for English football would be for Sky to go bust, we'd have a reset for sure and we'd lose a lot of overseas talent but it would eventually even it all out

    Rule changes will never happen as the bigger clubs don't want the likes of Leeds, Sunderland, Ipswich, or any other club joining the challenge at the top. They like it that the three promoted are favourites to go back down and they like having the cushion of Everton, West Ham and Wolves type teams below them

    It is getting worse as you might have £100m to spend but a player would prefer to join Brentford, Wolves, Forest, Bournemouth as those players now expect joining a promoted team will mean Championship football a season later

    What promotion does buy you is the ability to fund a strong championship team, it allows you to compete at the top end of the championship for a couple of seasons
     
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    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    And we are currently seeing the same sort of season as you had when you were competing with us and Leicester. Lots of change to deal with, hopefully we come together as quickly as you did and have a strong season.
     
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  16. carrabuh

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    What you are doing is taking loads of different opinions and conflating them as one to make yourself look oh so clever and fans being unreasonable.

    Speak for yourself not your selective interpretation of a group.
     
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  17. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    What TopBunk is actually pointing out is that fans want the moon on a stick - making impossible and conflicting demands.
     
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  18. carrabuh

    carrabuh Well-Known Member

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    No, what he's saying is there are lots of ideas of progress and pretends none of these opinions disagree with each other Yet he is so very clever to make THEM sound so very stupid and unreasonable for such conflicting ideas.

    This article is nothing about ideas or discussion, it's about trying to sound clever.
     
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  19. stretchyboy

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    Or you trying to sound like an idiot... you're doing well at it
     
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  20. TopBunk

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    Thanks I appreciate that I appear very clever to you, it says more about you than it does about me.
     
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