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Match Day Thread Arsenal v Leeds United

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Aug 21, 2025 at 9:34 AM.

  1. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, but jeez, the people mentioning bringing Mes back in must be drinking meths. When was the last time we brought a really good keeper in?
     
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  2. Normanbitmyleg70

    Normanbitmyleg70 Well-Known Member

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    Normally I wouldn't be so harsh but after enduring Meslier's mistakes I was hoping for somebody who could instal a bit of confidence. Didn't think we would get anything from The ARSE but 5 SOTs and 5 goals is awful but his half arsed attempts to get nowhere near the shots was a joke.
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

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    As I’ve said before I don’t really blame anyone for the recruitment. Only players we got were ones nobody was competing for. Grade b pl premier players if you like. We’re miles away from being an attractive prospect to top players and also miles from being able to afford them. We’re basically operating with two hands tied behind our back.
     
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  4. Doc

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    Ampadu gets injured so rather than chose someone like Stach to skipper he picked Struijk over Bijal, mistake 1. Mistake 2 was knowing we are not good against a press in the championship against average teams expect a pressing Arsenal to give us time. Mistake 3 was not picking his best 11 and knowing that Pirri isn’t great at tippy tappy at the back insist on playing tippy tappy at the back. We are not good enough and need to stop it. Would a back 3 have worked better for us yesterday I think so and can’t say it was a mistake not to but Man Utd used a back 3 last week and how they never won is beyond me, but they were a country mile better than Arsenal?
     
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  5. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    Ive given it 24 hours and things are calmer.

    Yesterday's player ratings.

    Perri - 2. Came and caught a couple early but did his best Meslier impression for most of the game. Poor distribution, poor shot stopping, poor positioning. Just piss poor all round. I just want a keeper who will save the odd shot. **** knows what they were looking at to think this lad was a good idea.

    Bogle - 6. Unluckily booked early doors but was probably the pick of the bunch considering he spent most of the game on a caution.

    Rodon - 3. Decent start to the game but things fell apart after the first goal which was partly his fault.

    Struijk - 3. Not the greatest defender at this level. Too slow, non aggressive and stand offish. This is how I remember Premier League Struijk. Struggles if Leeds dont control possession.

    Gudmundsson - 4. Tough task against Saka but held his own until it all fell apart in the 2nd half. Overly safe with his passing.

    Gruev - 5. Best of the midfield bunch. Lacks the physicality and pace in the PL but there was plenty of fight in his game. Shame the more physical lads couldn't match his desire. Doesn't have the quality to compete at top 4 level.

    Tanaka - 4. Tried to be slow and safe on the ball which isnt his game and was outmuscled too often. Bullied by the Arsenal midfield who were lucky to get away with alot of shirt/shoulder pulling off the ball.

    Stach - 3. Was constantly fouled but the ref gave nothing. Instead of giving it back, he gave up. Head dropped early 2nd half. He needs to sort that out as soon as possible. He needs to carry others with him not the other way around. Low mark isnt necessarily his footballing performance but his mentality. Played too safe.

    Gnonto - 4. Gave nothing much going forward but he battled well and worked hard defensively. Another who refused the pass forward when it was relatively easy.

    James - 3. He was supposed to be the danger man for us with his pace on the counter. Lacked the confidence to take on his man 1 v 1. If he's not willing to do that then what's the point in his selection? Looks miles off his best form.

    Piroe - 3. Not his game. Tried to drop deep and dictate but it was not the game to do it. Gave us no physical presence up top and never released the pressure. Not really his fault, its not his game. Poor selection.

    Subs.

    All subs get a 6 from me. Coming on at 4-0 down is very much "what the **** do you want me to do!" territory. Can't say they turned the tide but its not fair to give them poor marks as the damage was already done.

    Farke - 2. Got alot wrong in this one. The zonal marking in your own 6 yard box is laughable against an Arsenal corner. Thats negligence imo. Got his selection all wrong in hindsight. Nmecha instead of Piroe, Longstaff instead of Tanaka and Bijol instead of Struijk looks the play.

    The caveat to all this is (like everyone has alluded to) that its not really a fair playing field in this league. It wasn't really a sporting event as it wasn't competitive. We'd have probably lost if we played with an extra man.
     
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  6. Marcos Barber

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    I like the giving it 24 hours approach. Nobody could write anything up that dressed it as anything other than a disaster. Individual players can’t be blamed or Farke, or the owners in my eyes. Quite simply, Arsenal are a minimum of five years in front of us. If Wolves or West Ham do that to us I’ll really worry. If we stay up, next year will be nibble away and try and get closer, rinse and repeat for a few years but it really won’t happen overnight.

    I watched the second half just shrugging knowing Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, City etc are primed to win the lot, we just aren’t (yet, I hope). It was like Frank Bruno fighting Cassius Clay in his second professional fight.

    It isn’t going to be easy either, if we find a great groundsman, Chelsea will probably just pay him 600 grand a year to go on loan in Norway or something. When Cheeky Charlie the paperboy came on for Arsenal, you know he will be there for 15 years or they will sell him for £100 million. If Harry wins a corner for us, Bournemouth or Brighton will just buy him for £30 million. Depressing I know but, with a death in the family (Gooner) this morning, there are worse things at sea :emoticon-0126-nerd:
     
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  7. ristac

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    The statistics for their new statistical data driven approach

    Sorry to here that buddy, condolences to your family
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    Condolences Marcus
     
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  9. sniffer1

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    Not the full story ! Leicester put effort and determination in as they did not have the same skill with their players as Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd so they put more energy into their game with effort and determination also tactics and they beat the above teams , Leeds did none of that against arsenal if we had it would've been a different result , we are going to have to do this as we are in a similar position as Leicester were.
     
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  10. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    Condolences to you and your family.
     
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  12. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds
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    Sorry to hear that @Marcos Barber thoughts are with you and yours
     
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  13. LeedsRover1

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    Condolences Marcus.
     
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  14. Swiss Toni

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    Couldn't agree more, also why does he have to appear looking like a tramp all the time, he's representing the club for christs sake. :headbang:
     
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  15. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Ageing hippy :emoticon-0176-smoke
     
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  16. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Not strictly how I saw it with new keeper. He went long on several occasions but Gnonto, Piroe and James had no chance against Gabriel and Saliba who gobbled those up all afternoon. And he clearly can’t play short, so the question is why recruit him unless Farke has decided to all but ditch playing from the back in a bid to stay up (see the Gruev mistake for the second goal).
     
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  17. Gessa

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    Commiserations Marcos
     
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  18. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds
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    We shouldnt be playing it back to his feet especially against a team like arsenal. Hes not mes (thankfully) but thats one thing he did well
     
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  19. milkyboy

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    too busy spouting bollox to spot this earlier. Really sorry to hear that, Condolences to you and your family mate.
     
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