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  1. LockStock

    LockStock Well-Known Member

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    It's obvious that Levy doesn't have the 'liquid' money to spend that some other teams do. I have no problem with him using his equivalent of Klarna to get the deals happening, if that is the case.

    I think the 'loan with option' is just a way of delaying paying, so that more players can be bought in sooner.

    I don't actually care how he does it, as long as he does it.

    There is no point saying that you want to win the PL and he CL, but only buying as if you're Europa League level.

    He now needs to be ruthless. Any good player that Frank wants that is in a non CL club should be targeted as if we actually mean to remain in the CL spots.

    He needs back the manager with the resources to back his chat.

    Nobody asked him to say out loud that he wants to win the two biggest competitions.
     
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    Spurs bid for Savinho, MGW and Eze.

    There’s money and scope to spend. A couple of loans at this stage won’t cut it.

    Ideally 2 big signings before end of the window
     
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    TBH, loan with an obligation for Paz is the most logical move as it overwrites Los Ladrones' buyback clause
     
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    Gibbs-White with a misplaced pass to give Palace the lead

    Now if he happens to do similar next week, we might have an interesting Deadline Day...
     
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    Only if it was incompetently phrased.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    Loans with obligations get around a lot of clauses

    Romero, Porro and Lo Celso had fat sell-on clauses we got around due to them
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    One theory I've seen gaining traction about Savinho: the Mansourites are still salty about us not selling Harry Kane to them, somehow forgetting the issue was them claiming they couldn't afford the £100m asking price

    That would be the same club who then spent the £100m they claimed they didn't have on Jack Grealish...
     
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  8. Citizen Kane.

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    We do have the liquid cash flow to spend. It might not be as much as other teams, especially those who openly cheat, but it is roughly £80m more than we've spent so far. That is more than enough to sign a top quality player and there is no reason not to have got that done by now.

    What's holding us back is Levy's natural (extreme) financial caution and thoroughness. The same caution delivered a £1billion stadium without crippling us, so it certainly has its uses.

    But in the market, in a summer where we clearly don't have any desirable assets to sell, the same caution and thoroughness is holding us back.
     
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    Leeds wanting to loan Solomon rather than pay our £15-20m asking fee seems to have gummed up the works somewhat

    We all expected that we'd need Dynamite to shift Gil when he did his ligaments in March, but Solomon looked set to be a tidy little earner, but at this point looks more likely go wind up in a cash + player deal
     
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    Yes but lawyers should have wised up by now.
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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    If anything lawyers seem to be getting dumber, based on super secret release clauses which aren't enforceable if a fat crook kicks up enough fuss
     
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    Release clauses are only enforceable by the player though.
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

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    If City sign Donnarumma and Ederson's available on the cheap, should we be interested?
    Loan out Kinsky for regular football and give Vicario cup games and rotation.
     
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    I outlined it two or three pages ago: Ederson's body is breaking down, based on his increasing number of muscle injuries in the last couple of seasons, so he simply can't play like he could 4-5 years ago
     
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    £15-20m is pittance in today's market, especially if we're now regularly targeting players 'worth' three to four times that amount.

    As I've said elsewhere, our inability to turn a profit from player sales is deeply worrying. Take Kane out the equation and we've generated just under £200m in sales since moving to the new stadium, which averages out to £40m a year. It isn't nearly enough.
     
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    Most of the time it makes sense due to our failing to maintain their value, let alone increase it

    Nkoudou is probably the most notorious example of this due to him barely playing for us for two years, before being loaned to Burnley who conspired to give him less playing time than we did - though Veliz is probably rapidly catching up due to eighteen months of bench surfing loans

    On paper last season did increase Solomon's value, though that isn't hard given he cost us £0.00, but the fact both Leeds and Everton went for cheaper options when we were asking for about half what Chelsea charge when selling a youth player to another member of the PSR Gang

    I mean I get why Gil is guaranteed to leave at a loss, given his big chance of recouping a significant amount of the outlay vanished when his knee ligaments went so Girona decided against making his loan permanent, but the fact that Paratici was reportedly in Italy last week pitching Solomon to Bologna begs the question how there's at least a dozen teams across the PL and Championship who haven't considered £15m a solid investment, especially considering Ipswich have £60m burning a hole in their pocket from player sales this summer while Leicester have something like £35m, let alone the fact Leeds have paid £15m+ on three players this summer
     
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