(OT) Scroat gets man-handled by a big lad.

Sorry, but the guy had no right to get involved and manhandle him like that. Would have been a different story if the kid had been physically threatening and he'd stepped in but he was just sitting back in the seat being a little bit mouthy. The conductors have protocol for this kind of thing and have dealt with it many times before, this wouldn't have been any different. The man risked starting violence with his pointless heavy-handedness.

 

I fail to see your point. The two things are not the same.

 

And what exactly is that protocol?

 

I guess I'm the only person who couldn't understand a word that was said in that video then.

 

calling the police.

 

they're similar enough i think you'll find. Excessive violence and force directed at people not respecting those who are in a position of authority. Very similar in fact.

 

Right, so every other person on that train needs to be inconvenienced and we the tax payer have to foot the bill just because some people don't want to step in and do the obvious any more... seemingly because the likes of you will end up branding those who intervene criminals, and the little toe rags that take advantage of the way things have become cry assault. I see.

 

He didn't physically assault anyone, he removed a **** who was being disrespectful, and I'm glad the world isn't filled with panzies like you because then ****s like that little twat could do whatever they want, and don't give me this bollocks about letting the police handle it, the police are ****e and only bother themselves when it suits them/.

 

I suspect that the guy got involved because the driver had stopped the train. Usually, if a fare dodger is found, the train will be stopped until he's removed. After all, the conductor can't remove someone if the train starts moving again. This causes delays (especially if the kid is being a gobby and stubborn little ****e) so it just gets on everyone's tits.

He brought it upon himself by immediately trying to get back into the train though. If he had took the hint and left when he was put outside he wouldn't have been hoyed to the floor. He was picked up from his seat and pushed out without any real violence, but stupidly trying to get back on past the guy is what caused him to be thrown to the floor. It's difficult to have any sympathy for the kid.

 

Take his details,if he fails to give them call the police to meet him at the next stop. If he give details but still refuses to pay it goes to a court order and he can be prosecuted!!

 

It's not very similar. One person paid £40 to watch a footie game and wanted to stand to watch it. I'd suggest either nobody else around him gave a toss and so he should have been left alone or else he was being highly offensive and belligerent and so deserved to get chucked out. As for the little toe rag on the train, he broke the law, was being a cheeky ****, and was putting out every other person on the train who had actually paid for a ticket. Some bloke lifted his scrawny arse up and showed him the exit. Oh, Dear Lord, how his civil rights were infringed. I guess he may never recover.

 

To be fair,the guy should have known, Scottih or not, that you don't mess with the Scottish public. Look what happened to our Asian friends that tried to blow up Glasgow airport!!

 

Btw, the kids actions clearly shows what he thinks of society and the way it is. Despite being manhandled by a big ****er he had absolutely no hesitation in trying to force himself back onto the train. He was fearless because he thought he was untouchable. That's the problem with them these days.

 

I ****ing hate modern society sometimes! If you are being a **** you deserve a slap, end of.

 

Let me give you an example of how ****e the police are.

I live in an estate with a back field next to it. Within a 50 meter radius of my street, there's been a girl attacked and stabbed, two accounts of chav's jumping over a back garden fence and nicking something, and one of the windows in our house has been smashed by some ****er hoying a brick, and the police say they aren't going to send any coppers down to patrol the area as they don't think it's necessary So someone getting stabbed, two accounts of breaking and entering and theft, and a windows being smashed aren't enough to get the police off their arses?

 

Assault is against the law. End of. There are perhaps one or two occasions when it's excuasble (a man running from the police, a man who's assualted a woman) but even those cases get investigated. If we start to allow contentious cases like this to get through the system then where does it end? You see someone park on a double yellow line. That's bloody annoying and against the law....Assault them. Someone's walked off with a pint glass from the pub (lot's of people do this). They've stolen from the pub....Assualt them. Someone's illegally downloaded a film from the internet.... you guessed it, Assault them. What if the teenager had cracked his head on the concrete and died? Would you still be hailing the big man as a modern day Spartacus?

 

To be liberal comes with a frustrating obligation to all that is just, in an unjust world. Whoever’s beliefs are ultimately right, a liberal will always understand the mindset of a conservative, whereas the conservative will never fully understand the mind and heart of a liberal, not deep down.

Hence the arguments here