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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Let's try the arithmetic then...
    We are currently worth £2.5b according to Forbes. We get a £1.25b investment and use it to pay off the loans and buy £400m of players. This gives three years of 20% growth from low hanging fruit making the club worth £6.6B ie about 25% more than Real Madrid are currently worth. All from £400m of new players. It isn't that easy!
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    As per Ornstein, the Bottlers believe that Ethan Nwaneri signing a new contract has shored up their left flank

    In other words, "We didn't want Eze anyway!!!!"
     
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  3. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I suggest that you offer COYS Daniel £2.5b for the club and see how you get on.

    Also I'm surprised that you readily accept that our owners are such bad businessmen that they are unable to strike a deal to pay off part of the debt out of additional investent. Lewis is a wheeler dealer supreme unconstrained by your thinking. All of the constraints have always been at Lewis' call to alter/end.
     
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  4. PowerSpurs

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    You said there were low hanging fruit that would increase the club's value by 20% per year. I've just demonstrated that would cause us to be bigger than Real Madrid in 3 years even starting from a low valuation that you admit ENIC wouldn't consider.
    Of course there are deals to be done in removing the covenants but they all depend on new investment which can't actually be justified on its merits. It remains the case that the only clubs who have grown faster than us since ENIC are Chelsea and Man City, both of whom had owners who are sportswashing and don't care about whether they make money. I would actually be perfectly happy if some rich Spurs fan bought the club from ENIC and splashed her own money on it just to win success on the field. But there isn't such a person.
     
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  5. Citizen Kane.

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    Absolutely not.

    No idea what he's done to be 'worth' that, especially considering the awkward (and totally overlooked) fact that City signed him from themselves in the first place, so didn't actually lose any money in the process.

    Eze can be got for similar or less. Get that done. Savinho can jog on.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    Methinks they just learned what Rodrygo's wage demands are...
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    Is it time to remind people once again that, if a club accepts the first bid, it usually means you dd something wrong?

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  8. LockStock

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    Man City want Spurs to pay for them to get Rodrygo, basically. I hope we get Eze over the line first and then circle back for Levy hard ball.

    Having said that, it would be refreshing if Levy just paid them £60m and allowed Frank to work his magic.
     
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  9. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'm talking of increasing revenue and profitability.

    How a company is 'valued' is far more art than science. I did a course on A Marxist Examination of Companies and Company Law at university, which having discounted logical methods, resulted in the view that it's significantly based on speculation.

    With football clubs, any attempt to apply a value is like sticking a pin in a list of valuations, whilst wearing a blindfold. Profitability and infrastructure seems far less important than recent major success (Chelsea's ridiculous share price comes instantly to mind) and potential (Villa, Newcastle) together with getting a bargain (Liverpool's sale to their current owners, Everton, Villa, etc.).

    The club needs capital investment for development. That's a given. It also needs to grow, if ENIC's stated aim, to sell up, is to be achieved at something approaching their (probably excessive) valuation

    As I've said, there's around 20% income growth from improving internal management, but the real bounty is in becoming a really BIG hitter. There is NO ****ING CHANCE of that happening under COYS Daniel's modus operandi and organic growth. City, Chelsea and the new players on the block (Villa, Newcastle, etc.) have killed that stone dead.

    If ENIC want to sell THFC for top dollar, they are going to have to pump prime the process with significant investment, like Arsenal's owners have, to get them out of a similar slump to our's post-2019.

    Micromanaging the budget, building hotels etc. won't do it alone. Either ENIC will invest to ensure that we're in the CL 4 seasons out of 5 and have star players, or we will become also-rans...and the time to do it is running out.

    Levy's had his shot, on his terms, for various reasons, it hasn't quite worked. Time for a new strategy for the age when you sell your own assets to yourself, to qualify for the CL.
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    I get the feeling we're likely going to wind up paying above Eze's release clause, but over a 3-4 year spell instead of a lump sum

    As for the Mansourites, Savinho wants to leave so they're not in as strong a negotiating position as they think they are, so if we get Eze across the line we can let them sweat a little
     
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  11. PleaseNotPoll

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    Palace are in a bit of a ****ty position.
    They must be tempted to cash in on some of their talent and expand the squad.
    Avoiding pissing off Glasner will be a tricky balancing act, though.
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    They're reportedly looking at El Khannouss

    Makes a lot of sense: triggering his relegation release clause will cost around £25m (yes it will, Lard Ass Hogan), so get enough of an upfront fee for Eze to cover that and focus elsewhere with the established transfer kitty
     
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  13. Dier Hard

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    Romano via Paul O’Keefe has said Spence has signed his new deal.

    Great news, we’ve got three excellent FBs in my opinion.

    Crazy to think of his turnaround in fortune though, Genoa had a €10m buy option in his loan deal that they didn’t take up!
     
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  14. SpursDisciple

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    He was superb yesterday. Making a play to be first choice imo.
     
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  15. The Changing Man

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    Plenty of matches this season and his ability to play either side should allow all 3 of them (if they all stay fit) to rotate. But I agree he was excellent last night.
     
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  16. Citizen Kane.

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    Forest sign James McAtee and Omari Hutchinson.

    Neither were cheap, but they're among the most exciting young players in the league atm.
     
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  17. KingHotspur

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    Also close to signing Juventus midfielder Douglas Luiz and Rennes striker Arnaud Kalimuendo too apparently.
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    The McAtee deal sounds like City loaded the **** out of it.
    Sell-on and buy-back clauses, plus performance bonuses.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Not double secret ones?
     
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    Depends. Who's asking?

    I don't think I've ever heard of a player apologising for signing a new contract.
    He was clearly made an offer that he couldn't refuse...
     
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